Skip to comments.‘Hope and Change’ is Dead, the audacity of complete Failure (Special election gloat post)
Posted on 01/19/2010 8:45:11 PM PST by sickoflibs
Its over folks. Not just the Massachusetts Senate election but any Democrat health care reform bill. Democrats chances of passing a health care reform bill that looks like anything like we have seen is about zero. The rest of the battle against Democrats till the November election is downhill from here. If you had been watching MSNBC the past few days you could see the democrat party and Obama White House preparing for this humiliating loss. Story after story was about Martha Coakley's coming defeat and about how she screwed up. Last night Chris Matthews did a 2 hour special on Obamas first year in history. Tonight Matthews is reporting on what went wrong during Obamas first year. Was this great timing or what? In fact tonight on MSNBC Rachael Maddow took issue with Matthews assumption that something went wrong with the Democrat party and started an argument with him about it (a classic moment.)
Obama and the democrat leadership have a terrible job. They cant give up this battle where defeat is certain. You will hear lots about the various options democrats have to pass a bill. The truth is that even without this special election Democrats would have had a hell of a time combining the two bills and passing a single one with its popularity so low. In fact it is doubtful that the House and Senate could have even passed the same two bills in January again let alone a single bill. Now this election defeat will send shock waves through democrats up for election in November. The leaderships options have gotten even worse. Republicans smell blood as does the MSM, and democrats are wounded and cornered with few options.
So what are the options Democrats have proposed ? ( I saw many on MSNBC the Obama channel tonight .) Option 1 is to convince the House Democrats to pass the Senate bill with no change requiring no new Senate vote. The problem with this is the Senate bill is unpopular with everyone, even liberals. Option 2 is to pass the Senate bill as in option 1 but promise house democrats that it will be fixed in a later Senate (50 vote) budget reconciliation bill. This would require convincing the House democrats that the bill would be fixed by the Senate later (after being burned multiple times). And many parts of the bill could not be changed using reconciliation. For example reconciliation could probably not be used to create a public health plan. Option #3 is to pass a bill fast before Senator Scott Brown is seated. I will predict that Democrats are now too spooked by this loss to try to move on the Health Reform bill before he is seated. In fact Jim Webb and Barney Frank have already come out tonight with statements opposing passing a bill before he is seated.
Obama is now going to be even more tempted than he was earlier in the year to get a bill by compromise with some republicans. He will make the argument to democrats that compromise is the only option. But now Republicans even RINOs are embolden by the election loss and polls, moderate democrats are scared to vote and the liberals are still convinced that it was compromise that created the crappy Senate bill that everyone hates, and is what led to the Massachusetts Senate loss. Once again, its the perfect position to be in if you are the minority. Enjoy!
Can you hear us now???
I hope they keep pushing this socialist healthcare crap,its the gift that keeps on giving.
Loved one of the signs I saw: Washington Was this Loud Enough?
They’re in such deep $h!t.
I wanna see a headline of a newspaper in the morning somewhere that proclaims in big bold print “OBAMA NEUTERED”
Enjoy, we waited years for this day!
> In fact Jim Webb and Barney Frank have already come out tonight with statements opposing passing a bill before he is seated.
Webb is one of the tolerable opposing senators so it’s not surprising. Barney Frank, on the other hand, he’s got a crush on SB after seeing those pics..
Loud and very clear.
The November campaigns should start now with signs in yards all across the country. Even without candidates, put up signs against the RAT/RINOs. Remind your neighbors what these traitors have done to our country.
Signs could highlight the unemployment numbers, the amount of debt, terrorists being given the rights of citizens, trying a terrorist in NYC and the cost, and the list goes on. Signs illuminating what Zero has in yards and on billboards coast to coast would be awesome. Starting NOW.
It’s not over. It’s only the beginning.
AHHHH..... sweet revenge.......
I am so way above gloating.
The liberals are going to eat their own. It can be a complete rout if the GOP leadership plays this right.
By right, I mean if they listen to the Tea Party. The energy to rout the liberals is not found inside the Beltway...it is found across the fruited plain in the Tea Party.
If they turn a deaf ear to the small-government branch of the party, they will get tossed out just as easily as Croakley did tonight.
This is a start - a good start to be sure, but the revolution has just begun in earnest.
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