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Great essay from a great blog.
1 posted on 01/06/2010 6:24:06 AM PST by Travis McGee
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2 posted on 01/06/2010 6:25:02 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

—bflr—


3 posted on 01/06/2010 6:26:58 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Travis McGee

Slaves are not allowed to have weapons. That is for free people. Most of the people who live in the United States have sold their soul and birthright to the government, or are willing to, so the government will take care of them from the cradle to the grave. They abhor the avtual thought of having to be responsible for providing for themselves.

This was evidenced by the election of Democrats in 2006 to Congress and in 2008 to theoffice of President and Congress.


5 posted on 01/06/2010 6:39:11 AM PST by sport
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To: Travis McGee
When it all hits the fan, I would hope that I could stand alongside the local cops and fight to preserve my community from looters and roving bands of trouble-makers. Times may get really, really ugly and I want to be friends with the police in such a time. They will need all the help they can get.

On the other hand, if the cops get it into their heads that disarming citizens is the most important task, then the number of people who view cops as enemies is going to rapidly increase.

6 posted on 01/06/2010 6:40:37 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: Travis McGee

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage then to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”

Thomas Jefferson, quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in "On Crimes and Punishment", 1764

“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyrany in government.”

Thomas Jefferson

7 posted on 01/06/2010 6:45:54 AM PST by Mikey (He that refuses to know and exert his rights, doesn't deserve them.)
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To: Travis McGee

Police are the original and first welfare agency. You should guard and protect your self and your own property, or pay to have it done. The more stuff, land the more you should pay. If you own a lot of stuff, land you are wealthy and no one should subsidies your protection. If you can not afford, or can not do it, or both, you should make social relations with some one who can ( this used to be one of the skill sets, and values of young men. Now since usurped by the Police bureaucracy just as welfare, Section 8, WIC, Medicade had devalued the young male as a provider . )


8 posted on 01/06/2010 6:51:12 AM PST by Leisler (We don't need a third party we need a conservative second party.)
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To: Travis McGee
Great essay from a great blog.

I agree.

And I am appalled that I do agree.

After nearly 30 years of military and law enforcement experience, I have come to the belief and position that cops are useless, ineffective, usually functioning as a revenue tool of a dysfunctional municipality, overly aggressive based on their personal egos, and a downright threat to our rights and even our lives and families.

I have come to regard our law enforcement officials as the "enemy", rather than the friends that I was taught they were in my youth.

They have been exalted to a lofty position, usually by themselves, that places them in a mindset reminiscent of a Gestapo.

To even speak out or offer a gentle reproach or criticism earns one the scrutiny of the powers that be.

I have had personal encounters that shock and horrify me.

Their arrogance, their attitude of "I have the POWER!", and the "Respect my authoritah!" exuberance is downright disgusting.

I was stopped at a DUI checkpoint the other day...middle of the day, by the way...and the attitude and demeanor of the deputy was instantly arrogant, aggressive and in my opinion, harassing and demeaning.

When I refused to discuss my destination and origin with him, he escalated it to wanting to search my vehicle, which, of course, escalated it to me being even more determined to foil his Gestapo crap.

All of my "papers" were in order, and of course, I spoke the "lingo", i.e., knowing what "PC" is and being able to rationally discuss the situation without getting red in the face and backing up 6 feet and placing my hand on my gun, as did he.

Stupid ass bubba is what he was.

But I digress.

The police are out of control.

We need to start over with them or something.

Perhaps another Peelian Reform?

Oh, wait, that's what got us into this crap in the first place.

13 posted on 01/06/2010 7:05:45 AM PST by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: Travis McGee
Last November, a measure went into effect in Oklahoma that makes it a felony, punishable by a five-year prison term and a $10,000 fine, to "fortify" a home "for the purpose of preventing or delaying entry or access by a law enforcement officer."

This is bullshit. I'll fortify my home and take this to court. I'll kill any man that tries to breach my home with my family in it.

14 posted on 01/06/2010 7:11:19 AM PST by DCBryan1 (wake me when the shooting starts....then I will go feed the hogs.)
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To: Travis McGee

The NYPD has been a wholly owned subsidiary of the democrat party since it was formed.


15 posted on 01/06/2010 7:14:14 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Travis McGee
This was the real WTF for me:

Last November, a measure went into effect in Oklahoma that makes it a felony, punishable by a five-year prison term and a $10,000 fine, to "fortify" a home "for the purpose of preventing or delaying entry or access by a law enforcement officer."

Under the measure, written by Republican (natch) State Representative Sue Tibbs, it is impermissible to "construct, install, position, use or hold any material or device designed ... to strengthen, defend, restrict or obstruct any door, window, or other opening into a dwelling, structure, building or other place to any extent beyond the security provided by a commercial alarm system, lock or deadbolt, or a combination of alarm, lock, or deadbolt."

So if I live in a high crime area and want bars or steel shutters on my windows - if I'm preparing for SHTF Day and fortifying my home - if I have a panic room - if I like concrete walls, Lexan windows, high strength doors and security foyers just because - and law enforcement ever wants to enter my home, I am screwed.

18 posted on 01/06/2010 7:17:24 AM PST by heartwood
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To: Travis McGee
Dear Mr. Lynch:

Sorry you feel that way. Especially since the coming unrest will weigh heavily on NYC. Of course since the NYPD being one of the most corrupt and broken police organizations on the face of the Earth it will be attacked hard and from many points.

Your position will insure lots of blood shed on both sides. Oh and you and the ones like you are the reason I and ones like me will never visit your $hithole city you fascist bastard.

Sincerely,

Mad

21 posted on 01/06/2010 7:24:38 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Bruce Obamastein? Couldn’t the fella who wrote this used some other court jesters lyrics to make his point? Bruce ‘tingles’ Springsteen? Kinda ruins the whole article.

I wonder if our military personnel are going to go along with orders from on high? I’m getting older, but I seem to remember some soldier, Michael New. I think he was the only one who refused to put on some form of UN uniform. Everybody else went along.

I also seem to remember an article which said some military personnel would treat ‘orders as orders’ if they were used in a police fashion against Americans.

Looks like we may have more to worry about than just the police.


24 posted on 01/06/2010 7:46:15 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch (Rush Limbaugh, the Winston Churchill of our time)
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To: Travis McGee

We just won the Heller SCOTUS case and have been winning Castle Law enactments in state after state after sweeping the nation with CCW victories.

I’d say that the trend is in our favor now, no longer encroaching against us.

Democrats *fear* to bring up gun control now. They certainly aren’t trying to ram it through like they are doing with Healthcare.

QED.


27 posted on 01/06/2010 8:14:08 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Travis McGee
"We need to make it clear," fulminated Patrick Lynch of the New York City Policeman's Benevolent Association, "that if someone lifts even a finger against a police officer, their life could be on the line."

I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt here that he could be referring to people who choose to physically assault / fight police offers> I think the stats show most officers being killed with their own guns, for instance.

However, taken to the extreme, especially perhaps by younger police officers who are drilled in a certain mindset by their training, ANY resistance or delay in compliance by someone could be taken by the officer as a direct threat on the officer's life.

In that respect it's instructive to recall the travails of Cory Maye, currently imprisoned (and, at one time sentenced to death) for shooting and killing a police officer who broke into his home during a no-knock drug raid at the wrong address.

If Maye had been gunned down... the incident almost certainly would have been treated as a tragedy, rather than a crime, and the public would have been admonished by the police and their media stenographers not to second-guess brave officers tasked to do "dangerous work" entailing "split-second decisions." No similar official sympathy was ever extended to Maye, who had to make a split-second decision when dealing with a party of armed strangers who had invaded his home and threatened his family."

This no-knock SWAT-assault style raids in the name of the war on drugs (and in some cases for other reasons) is way out of hand.

31 posted on 01/06/2010 8:45:29 AM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Luke 22:36 "Then said he unto them...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.")
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To: Travis McGee
We shouldn't forget that civilian disarmament is carried out for the benefit of rulers, not subjects.

Excellent point.

36 posted on 01/06/2010 10:04:04 AM PST by chainsaw56 (Do you have the right to defend yourself??)
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To: nina0113

Check this out.


37 posted on 01/06/2010 10:17:29 AM PST by Steve0113 (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
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To: Travis McGee

bttt


38 posted on 01/06/2010 10:34:20 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Nailbiter

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43 posted on 01/06/2010 11:27:42 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Travis McGee
”Freedom came my way one day,
And I started out of town.
All of a sudden I see sheriff john brown,
Aiming to shoot me down.
So I shot, I shot him down.”

”Cory Maye, currently imprisoned (and, at one time sentenced to death) for shooting and killing a police officer who broke into his home during a *no-knock drug raid at the wrong address.”

* Well I guess the 4th Amendment is completely dead, unless you have a lot of money?

”The right of the people to be secure in their persons , houses , papers , and effects , against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause , supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized .”
[All emphasis mine]

What part of this Amendment isn’t clear enough? Some say the”unreasonable“ searches and seizures part, but lets look at the term ”unreasonable“:

Unreasonable. ” baseless, excessive, extreme, foolish, groundless, illogical, improper, irrational, needless, outrageous, undue, unjustified, unnecessary, unrealistic, unwarranted .”

Ok, so a warrant can’t be issued unless there is probable cause. Yet no-knock searches and seizures occur with the blessings of the court.
Since an unreasonable search is a search w/o a warrant, then no knock warrant-less searches and seizures are completely unconstitutional.

The only way an amendment to the constitution can be changed or altered in anyway is via congress. Even then there are provisions within the constitution prohibiting congress from ratically changing the constitution.

Article. VI.

”This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.“

No law, treaty, amendment, etc can be passed that is in conflict with the constitution.

The way things are going, we’ll all end cowering in paper thin gilded cages waiting for our master to tell us when to jump and how high.

The dangers of a disarmed society

Never, ever happen here [/sarcasm]



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48 posted on 01/06/2010 1:32:58 PM PST by Mikey (He that refuses to know and exert his rights, doesn't deserve them.)
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