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1 posted on 12/22/2009 10:08:01 AM PST by Shellybenoit
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Stocking Stuffers: Payoffs, Kickbacks, Sweetheart Deals Abound in Gov’t Health Care
(ALL seniors are not created equal!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2413108/posts


2 posted on 12/22/2009 10:09:40 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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Its not according to the Senate rules or Constitution. I don’t think it means legally.

But like Rush said, its fascism.


3 posted on 12/22/2009 10:10:50 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Seems to me that clause, itself, would be unconstitutional.


4 posted on 12/22/2009 10:11:00 AM PST by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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Is there precedent for this?


5 posted on 12/22/2009 10:11:06 AM PST by hsrazorback1 (Seek truth.)
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... complete violation of democratic principles, rights and process.

the arrogant liars.... are hard at it foisting on America what she does not want.


6 posted on 12/22/2009 10:12:26 AM PST by himno hero
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Childishness. “I CALLED it that I’m left fielder. And I now CALL IT that you can never change that, either. Nanny-nanny-boo-boo.”

In this context, of course — “I CALLED IT that ReidCare is forever” — it’s not funny.


7 posted on 12/22/2009 10:12:26 AM PST by pogo101
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... complete violation of democratic principles, rights and process.

the arrogant liars.... are hard at it foisting on America what she does not want.


8 posted on 12/22/2009 10:12:41 AM PST by himno hero
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Reid to McConnell: “Don’t worry Mitch, we’ll just take it out during reconciliation.”

McConnell to Reid: “Okay, then. As long as you promise you’ll take it out, right?”


10 posted on 12/22/2009 10:15:47 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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Here is the transcript of the exchange between Jim DeMint and the Senate President:

DEMINT: But, Mr. President, as the chair has confirmed, Rule 22, paragraph 2, of the standing rules of the Senate, states that on a measure or motion to amend the Senate rules, the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the senators present and voting. Let me go to the bill before us, because buried deep within the over 2,000 pages of this bill, we find a rather substantial change to the standing rules of the Senate. It is section 3403 and it begins on page 1,000 of the Reid substitute. . . . These provisions not only amend certain rules, they waive certain rules and create entirely new rules out of whole cloth.”

The Senate President disagreed and said it was a change in procedure, not a change in rules, therefore the Senate precedent that a two-thirds vote is required to change the rules of the Senate does not apply.

Senator DeMint responded:

DEMINT: and so the language you see in this bill that specifically refers to a change in a rule is not a rule change, it’s a procedure change?

THE PRESIDING OFFICER: that is correct.

DEMINT: then i guess our rules mean nothing, do they, if they can re define them. thank you. and i do yield back.

THE PRESIDING OFFICER: the senate stands adjourned until 7:00 a.m. tomorrow.

That’s right. When confronted with the facts, the Senate Democrats ran for cover. The Senate Democrats are ignoring the constitution, the law, and their own rules to pass Obamacare.

http://normanhooben.blogspot.com/2009/12/section-3403-is-this-death-of-america.html

11 posted on 12/22/2009 10:15:56 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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We are on the way to dictatorship. Isn’t it fitting a strange little drip like Harry Reid would bring it about?

Republicans better focus on the real issues or else they deserve to e replaced by a third party. A party of freedom.


12 posted on 12/22/2009 10:16:50 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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13 posted on 12/22/2009 10:17:10 AM PST by HighWheeler
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Waiting for the Supremes to rule on this.

Forcing US Citizens to purchase Gov’t goods? Based upon what Constitutional backing?

Stating that a law cannot be repealed? Based upon what ruling?


15 posted on 12/22/2009 10:18:46 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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yet another unconstitutional aspect of an unconstitutional effort


16 posted on 12/22/2009 10:22:01 AM PST by wny
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yet another unconstitutional aspect of an unconstitutional effort


17 posted on 12/22/2009 10:22:13 AM PST by wny
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yet another unconstitutional aspect of an unconstitutional effort


18 posted on 12/22/2009 10:22:17 AM PST by wny
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“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.”

—Patrick Henry, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1778

The attacks against our Constitution just keep on coming.


23 posted on 12/22/2009 10:34:04 AM PST by Texas56
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25 posted on 12/22/2009 10:43:35 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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Watch DeMint question the chair on this.
27 posted on 12/22/2009 10:45:49 AM PST by cornelis
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Obama to the Rescue.

God save us.

28 posted on 12/22/2009 10:46:07 AM PST by Bon mots
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They can try this sh*t, but when it is overturned by 51% who are they going to complain to, the Supreme Court? This just proves Dems are dangerously delusional. When a kid crashes your car, the first thing you do it take the keys away from them. 2010 can’t come soon enough.


30 posted on 12/22/2009 10:49:41 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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