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ikeonic: Victim of Palin Zot
Ikeonic ^ | 12/5/2009 | Ikeonic

Posted on 12/05/2009 9:54:41 AM PST by ikeonic

Sarah's explanation of why she legitimized the birther conspiracy theorists feeds right into her victimhood storyline:

Voters have every right to ask candidates for information if they so choose. I’ve pointed out that it was seemingly fair game during the 2008 election for many on the left to badger my doctor and lawyer for proof that Trig is in fact my child. Conspiracy-minded reporters and voters had a right to ask … which they have repeatedly.
Ah yes... Palin was a victim of a massive left wing conspiracy that forced her to courageously step down as Alaska's governor.  So it's only fair (to her mind) that Obama be hounded by an equally loony right wing conspiracy -- the birthers.  Well, you just can't argue with logic like that!

Rick Moran at Pajamas Media takes Palin to task and then some.  Here's a sample:

I note that some Palin fans are trying to spin the fact that she never called on the president to produce his birth certificate or questioned his citizenship. They are missing the point. Sarah Palin has said that these questions are legitimate, that voters have a right to know, and that “a lot” of citizens are concerned about it.

She didn’t say what any rational person on the right or left believes: that questions about the president’s birth have been settled by the state of Hawaii, that only a very small group of citizens are even concerned about the issue, and that an equally small number of people were even aware of the ridiculous controversy over Trig’s origins.

Moran continues:
Those who are tempted to say that Sarah Palin’s attempt to legitimize the birther movement will destroy her campaign should forget it. It will never happen. She is immunized against such career-ending gaffes by her loyal followers who don’t want to listen to anyone when they criticize, laugh, or beat their heads against a wall over the latest evidence that as presidential material Palin would make a good candidate for the mayor of Wasilla.
The problem is, unless the GOP — and that includes Rush Limbaugh and the other cotton candy conservatives who wield a lot of influence — stand up and denounce her in no uncertain terms, birtherism will have gone completely mainstream in the Republican Party. If that happens, you might want to forget about any significant gains at the polls for the GOP in 2010.
By her stupidity, she is now going to force every GOP candidate for the House and Senate to come out and declare whether they are birther nuts or not.
Indeed.  Read the whole story here.

The only reason I bother these days to post anything about Palin is merely to declare that I rue the day McCain ever picked her as his running mate (stupidest decision of his adult life) and pray that someday soon she will return to Alaska and disappear.  Palin is the poison pill that threatens to sink the entire GOP and I refuse to take that pill and go down with her. 

I'm not going to hold my nose and vote for Palin.  I can not go to my grave with that vote on my conscience.  It was bad enough holding my nose and voting for her to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency.  If she is our nominee in 2012 or 2016 or 20xx, I will vote for a third party or none of the above.  If she's all we got, then we deserve to lose.  It's that simple.

Now some might call me hypocritical for supporting Palin while she was the nominee.  True enough... but I'll leave it to Chuckles Johnson to offer up an explanation for anything I wrote in support of Palin last year:

Says Chuckles: "I was skeptical of her, but I was ready to defend her, because it was hyper-partisan time."

On that much, I'll agree with Chuckles -- and I agree with little Chuckles has to say these days.  In hyper-partisan mode, I too said a lot of things to defend Palin.  I swallowed hard and praised her just as I know it pained others to praise McCain during the campaign. 

But once the election was over, I pulled few punches with Palin.  Just as every RINO hating social conservative wasted no time in spouting their hatred for McCain once the election was over.  I was always a McCain supporter (and wish he'd beat Bush in 2000), but never liked Palin for anything other than her ability to regurgitate sound bites (more like bait) to appeal to the base. 

I always preferred Pawlenty and think McCain would have been far better served to lose with honor with Pawlenty at his side than to throw a Hail Mary with Palin and unknowingly launch the career of the all but certain destructor of the modern day GOP.  In the end, the shadow of Sarah Palin may well drawf all the good McCain accomplished in the US Senate.


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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Jim Robinson

You obviously have trouble understanding my posts, perhaps Jim Robinson could help you with that.


161 posted on 12/05/2009 1:06:34 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: Peter Horry
Many of the Polin supporters do seem to be very like the Obama supporters, don’t they?

Who is this Polin fellow you speak of?

162 posted on 12/05/2009 1:11:46 PM PST by airborne (As long as Muslims are a "protected species", all Americans are an "endangered species".)
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To: meadsjn
In the meantime, Gov. Palin has stated she will support conservative candidates in their 2010 races.

Yes, and the sooner Saint Sarah declares who the real, true, pure conservative candiates are (and conversely, who the RINOs are), the quicker we can get down to business.

So I say Sarah should quit wasting her time with Facebook posts about birther conspiracies and silly book tours and just tell us who she'll support in 2010 and who she won't.

Perhaps that can be her next book: "The RINO Blacklist: The people who need to be purged from the GOP" by Sarah Palin. I'm sure it will be an instant bestseller.

163 posted on 12/05/2009 1:12:06 PM PST by ikeonic
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To: Peter Horry; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Jim Robinson

Perhaps you can explain why this type of person wants to provoke people on a CONSERVATIVE website?

http://www.freerepublic.com/~peterhorry/

First voted for Richard Nixon when he ran against Hubert Humprey. Have supported Republicans for president, except for James E. Carter (a mistake) ever since and have supported mostly Republicans (with some exceptions) for just as long.


164 posted on 12/05/2009 1:13:46 PM PST by jessduntno (Make the Democrats STFU - Stop The Federal Usurpation...dump them out in 2010.)
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To: ikeonic

165 posted on 12/05/2009 1:14:23 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

MERRY CHRISTMAS, Sorry you are so troubled, I truly am.

166 posted on 12/05/2009 1:15:24 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: ikeonic

If you’re any indication of the type of intellect we’ll be seeing in trolls this weekend, it’s going to be a long one.


167 posted on 12/05/2009 1:16:45 PM PST by airborne (As long as Muslims are a "protected species", all Americans are an "endangered species".)
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To: ikeonic

What you are missing is as you can see here on this site most everybody knows why she stepped down. So your premise of her being hit continually in the future on this is mute. Everyone knows so the question is just noise.

Its your option to dislike the answer, but you should see the question itself has been answer to most people concerns because everyone here can answer if for her now.

Time to work on a new question.


168 posted on 12/05/2009 1:18:12 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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To: ikeonic
If you really want to stop the statist agenda and not just slow it down, then I suggest you secede or storm the White House. The GOP has never shown any real commitment to stopping the statist agenda, just reforming it and changing the direction.

They will NOW - have you seen the Tea Parties? Do you realize how pissed off people are at both parties and at Washington? I think a lot of people realize that the two-party system is just a facade and will support a true outsider for real change. That person is Governor Palin.

But many of you will be in an awfully awkward position (as you were last year by having to support McCain) if Romney or some other RINO wins the nomination in 2012. My Palin bashing is nothing compared to the mountain of bashing that goes towards any candidate not deemed pure enough. Perhaps the purges will succeed in removing all RINOs between now and 2012, but if the purges fail you're right back where you started.

You don't understand that Palin has been vetted and there's no more surprises from her. Voters will either support her or they won't - but at least they'll know where she stands. Can the same be said of any other candidates? Any Republican that runs will go through the meat grinder the minute they're nominated. The NY Times immediately put out a hit piece on McCain when it became clear he was in the lead.

I honestly believe there is no other Republican who can win besides Sarah.

169 posted on 12/05/2009 1:21:15 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: narses

Another day, another troll.


170 posted on 12/05/2009 1:21:34 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ikeonic

What prohibits such suits is the doctrine known as standing. Maybe you’ve heard of it recently. Unless Congress, pursuant to its power to do so prescribes jurisdiction for a federal courot to hear ethical charges against a President, as Alaska’s legisltature has done with regards to claimed ethical violations by its governor, there is no standing for any individual to bring charges against a President for ethical violations. I thought you would expose your complete ignrance and you have.


171 posted on 12/05/2009 1:21:36 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: airborne; ikeonic
If you’re any indication of the type of intellect we’ll be seeing in trolls this weekend, it’s going to be a long one.

Have you EVER seen a troll on here with a formidable intellect.

172 posted on 12/05/2009 1:22:56 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ikeonic
So I say Sarah should quit wasting her time with Facebook posts about birther conspiracies and silly book tours and just tell us who she'll support in 2010 and who she won't.

She never said anything about Obama's birth anywhere up until now when she was asked about it, so stop being disingenuous.

And the 2010 race won't really get underway until the Spring. She is in the reintroduction phase right now. Everything will unfold accordingly.

173 posted on 12/05/2009 1:23:27 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: wagglebee
It appears there are a few trolls on this thread.

I guess they’re out of school for the weekend,holed up in mom and dad’s basement and no friends to annoy.

174 posted on 12/05/2009 1:25:21 PM PST by airborne (As long as Muslims are a "protected species", all Americans are an "endangered species".)
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To: wagglebee

Never.


175 posted on 12/05/2009 1:25:34 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: airborne

LMAO!


176 posted on 12/05/2009 1:26:12 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Have you EVER seen a troll on here with a formidable intellect

No, but compared to Freepers, they look exceptionally ignorant!

177 posted on 12/05/2009 1:28:22 PM PST by airborne (As long as Muslims are a "protected species", all Americans are an "endangered species".)
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To: wagglebee
Have you EVER seen a troll on here with a formidable intellect.

Yes, but these are actually weapons grade level stupid, in this particular instaance. That sweet, special essence of purest, distilled Eau de Clowne Shoes that, realistically, ought to require a three-day waiting period. ;)

179 posted on 12/05/2009 1:28:55 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: jessduntno

I’m an independent old cuss, don’t pretend to be anything else, also am not a lock step “conservative” (also says that on my home page)how bout you.

Glad you liked my home page, didn’t see anything about you on yours. Now how the heck did you know my name was Skippy, I’ve never posted it here.


180 posted on 12/05/2009 1:29:35 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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