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CAN THE WEST BE SAVED?
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/05/counterjihad-vienna-2008.html ^
| Serge Trifkovic
Posted on 12/03/2009 10:08:16 AM PST by ventanax5
Europe today is a powder keg, Otto von Bismarck remarked , and the leaders are like men smoking in an arsenal.
I am not going to waste your time tonight with yet another treatise on why Islam is not the Religion of Peace, Tolerance, Compassion, etc, etc. We are beyond that. Had America agonized, in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor, whether Shinto was actually OK but only Bushido was bad, the Greater Asian Co-prosperity Sphere would be going strong to this day. Among reasonable people, unblinkered by the dicta of political correctitude, the real score on Muhammad and his followers is well known. It has been known for centuries. That score, however, no matter how calmly stated and comprehensively supported, invariably elicits the howls of Islamophobia from the neoliberal elite class.
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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: immigration; islam; israel; jihad; muhammad; west; wot
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posted on
12/03/2009 10:08:16 AM PST
by
ventanax5
To: Jack Black
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posted on
12/03/2009 10:10:15 AM PST
by
DCBryan1
(The first Civil War freed slaves from individuals. CW2 will free slaves from the government.)
To: ventanax5
“CAN THE WEST BE SAVED?”
Not according to Spengler.
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posted on
12/03/2009 10:11:31 AM PST
by
SMARTY
("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
Comment #4 Removed by Moderator
To: ventanax5; Lurker
This author gets it. I can find nothing in this article with which I disagree. The article cited here front-and-centers historical, ethical and epistemological truths with which none of us can be comfortable. In fact, it tracks the ideas and the premises laid out in Lee Harris The Suicide of Reason, to an uncomfortable degree.
Will we see a civilizational collapse that encompasses the Western world? If these trends continue, the odds favor it. Thats the brutal truth. And it certainly wont be the first time that such an event has occurred.
A world dominated by a cruel Chinese empire and the fanatical, murderous slave-keepers and practitioners of cultural genocide of Islam. Thats the prospect if we do not rise up and do the terrible things necessary to preserve our own civilization.
As an exercise for the reader, check out The Camp of the Saints by Frenchman Jean Raspail. Writing in the 1970s, he presaged what is happening to France and really, all of Europe now. Thanks a tip of the kepi to Lurker, who turned me on to this book a couple of years abck.
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posted on
12/03/2009 10:30:43 AM PST
by
Noumenon
(Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
To: ventanax5
Can it be, Yes. But that supposes an unflinching willingness to spill a great amount of blood. We are well beyond the point where we could crawl back out of the grave by simple and easy means.
Will it be? That is in doubt. Every day we lose another inch, another fiber of will to resist. If these last generations that knew freedom and liberty as a personal and true memory pass away, then The West won’t see daylight for many decades, if not centuries, to come. Most of our children are being taught lies and corrupted history, they won’t know what has been stolen from them. The fight must begin soon or there will be no fighters.
So the question isn’t can, the question should be do enough westerners value what is slipping away? They have sat back and let it come to this, so I wonder.
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posted on
12/03/2009 10:36:20 AM PST
by
Dr.Zoidberg
(Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
To: Dr.Zoidberg
I see no solution that does not involve enormous loss of life. And that becomes a situation of "burning the village in order to save it". Western Values are really about the value and importance of the individual. Killing 100 million people in order to preserve those values seems like a wrong-headed approach.
I'm very pessimistic and I feel bad for my children.
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posted on
12/03/2009 10:57:03 AM PST
by
ClearCase_guy
(Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
To: ClearCase_guy
Killing 100 million people in order to preserve those values seems like a wrong-headed approach.
There lies the problem. The West refused to head things off when it would have cost little and now we are racing past the less painful options. Every day we slide further from morally acceptable alternatives, those avenues are closing at blinding speed.
I hate knowing where we are headed, for myself, my family and for the children.
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posted on
12/03/2009 11:37:11 AM PST
by
Dr.Zoidberg
(Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
To: Noumenon
On present form, within a century the native Western majorities will melt away: child-free is a legitimate yuppie lifestyle term, on par with fat-free and drug-free. But whereas the threat of extinction of an exotic tribal group in Borneo or Amazonia - let alone a species of spotted owl or sperm whale - would cause alarm and prompt activism among neoliberal elites, it is deemed inherently racist to mention the fact that Europeans and their trans-Atlantic cousins are, literally, endangered species. The author nails it right here. Steyn wrote an entire book on this issue and if you haven't read it, you should. Best,
L
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posted on
12/03/2009 3:39:08 PM PST
by
Lurker
(The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
To: Lurker
Roger that - Steyn’s “America Alone” is a standard in my library. I wish I had even 2% of that guy’s talent.
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posted on
12/03/2009 3:41:49 PM PST
by
Noumenon
(Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
To: ClearCase_guy
Some time ago, one of FR's best essayists made the point that people stranded at sea in a lifeboat will
in extremis drink their own urine in order to survive. That does not mean that they would not return to the ideal of fresh, clean water the instant they got the chance.
In like manner, even an animal will gnaw its own limb off to escape a trap and save its life.
What would you do to save your own civilization, knowing full well that the failure to act - however terrible the act - will mean slavery OR WORSE for your children and all the generations after them? This is a question that is losing its last shreds of the hypothetical. It's a question that we will all face in our lifetimes. And we will NOT have the luxury of deferring it nor will we be able to choose an answer that we like.
Civilization or barbarism and slavery?
Life for you and your children or death for the monsters who aim to consume them?
What'll it be?
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posted on
12/03/2009 3:52:13 PM PST
by
Noumenon
(Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Had America agonized, in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor, whether Shinto was actually OK but only Bushido was bad, the Greater Asian Co-prosperity Sphere would be going strong to this day.
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posted on
12/03/2009 7:20:27 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
To: SunkenCiv
BTT - worth a re-visit...
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posted on
01/06/2010 9:12:48 AM PST
by
Noumenon
("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?")
To: Noumenon
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posted on
01/06/2010 4:40:53 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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