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To: Ryde

Yes they can, since your engagement with the college is voluntary.

It is no worse than making you buy books, laptops, pay for field trips etc.

I know you want to find some evil Constitutional Sacrilege here, but this ain’t it.

You need to understand the difference between the Government forcing people to do things against their will and people agreeing to give up their rights as part of a contract.


4 posted on 10/26/2009 4:07:20 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003
. . . people agreeing to give up their rights as part of a contract.

Rights cannot be given up as part of a contract. Where did you get that idea?

6 posted on 10/26/2009 4:09:57 PM PDT by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: freedumb2003

“people agreeing to give up their rights as part of a contract”

They give up certain liberties and privileges, but never their rights. Remember, rights are “unalienable,” which means they cannot be sacrificed, transferred, or seperated in any way. For all rights that are alienable, I suggest we stop calling them “rights,” for clarity’s sake.


27 posted on 10/26/2009 4:46:36 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: freedumb2003
I would think that it depends on if they were told in advance that they would have to volunteer 75 hours. If not, I think it is questionable as to it's legality.

The contract you speak of is to provide an education in a discpline for a set price. You are also told about the books, materials and, if applicable, other expenses you can expect beyobd that.

45 posted on 10/26/2009 5:28:49 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: freedumb2003
I would think that it depends on if they were told in advance that they would have to volunteer 75 hours. If not, I think it is questionable as to it's legality.

The contract you speak of is to provide an education in a discpline for a set price. You are also told about the books, materials and, if applicable, other expenses you can expect beyond that.

46 posted on 10/26/2009 5:29:23 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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