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To: freedumb2003
. . . people agreeing to give up their rights as part of a contract.

Rights cannot be given up as part of a contract. Where did you get that idea?

6 posted on 10/26/2009 4:09:57 PM PDT by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Misterioso
Rights cannot be given up as part of a contract. Where did you get that idea?

Sure they can. Military personnel give up all sorts of rights when they sign their contract of enlistment. Non-disclosure, non-compete clauses are common in contracts. The list goes on. As long as the contract is voluntary, there's nothing wrong with it.

11 posted on 10/26/2009 4:19:22 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Misterioso

“Rights cannot be given up as part of a contract.”

The last time you bought a piece of real estate or personal property, did the previous owner give up his rights to that property or can he still do with it as he pleases?

Of course a lot depends on how you define a rights, so: how do you define a right?

A lot also depends on how you define “give up a right”.


38 posted on 10/26/2009 5:10:43 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Misterioso; Tublecane

>>Rights cannot be given up as part of a contract. Where did you get that idea?<<

Living in the real world. You ever hear of non-disclosure clauses? Theoretically a violation of the 1st. All company email can be monitored — 5th. All company property is searchable (5th). Drug testing — 5th and 4th.

You must not work for a living to understand these simple ideas.

I guess what you don’t understand is that the Rights are between the Government and the individual, not any private party (such as a college or business) and the individual.

And as far as employees of the State, having been one, I guarantee you that there is a prohibition against supporting any individual politician nor cause by things like buttons, posters and what have you — again, you give up your 1st Amendment rights as part of your employment contract.

The real world: live it, love it.


40 posted on 10/26/2009 5:17:47 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Misterioso
Rights cannot be given up as part of a contract.

They sure as hell can. See Taylor v Taintor.

66 posted on 10/27/2009 12:09:14 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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