How about we all just become mind-numbed Obots instead.
YES WE CAN!
OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII!
BIRTHERS ARE DELUSIONAL!
CHANGE!
YES WE CAN!
O-BAAAH-MAAAAHHH!
Posted on 09/21/2009 5:37:18 PM PDT by rxsid
Pending Litigation: Hawaii Confirms That Obama’s Vital Records Have Been Amended.
I will be assisting one of my readers in filing litigation in Hawaii state circuit court pursuant to her ongoing request for public information denied by Hawaii officials. (Readers of my blog will recognize her as MissTickly aka TerriK.)Correspondence sent to TerriK by Hawaii officials indicates that President Obama’s vital records have been amended and official records pertaining thereto are maintained by the state of Hawaii.
I will issue a full statement and press release on behalf of TerriK via this blog in the days ahead. This statement will include a complete history of correspondence between TerriK and Hawaii state officials in the Office of Information Practices (OIP) and the Department of Health (DoH).
[snip]STANDING
TerriK has standing to pursue this action under the statute. The UIPA manual states:
“Any person” may make a request for government records under part II, the Freedom of Information section of the UIPA. “Person” is defined broadly to include an individual, government agencies, partnerships and any other legal entities.
Under part II, a government agency generally may not limit access to public records based on who the requester is or the proposed use of the record.
I wouldn't want to bet my life that the facts that Anna told her attorneys, and subsequently ended up in her divorce documents, were in fact, facts.
The statement in para I of the Obama/Dunham divorce, “That Libellant is now and for more than two years past has been a resident of Honolulu...,” is clearly a false statement. She had only returned to Hawaii, from Seattle, approximately 12 months prior to the date of the document.
But that's why I marked it as speculation.
I, like the rest of the world, have no idea what happened to Stanley Ann Dunham in the period between 9/1960 and 1964 -- and that includes Bambi.
Re: Soetoro's divorce -- who knows if he ever saw a copy of the filing -- he was in Jakarta, shacked up with a new woman -- same goes for Obama. He was in Cambridge in 1964.
Everything about Obama is speculation -- everything.
You are absolutely correct, sir, EVRYTHING about the Obama history is speculation. When a man will post a clear fraud on the Iinternet as his proof of bonefides, then alter that fraud by adding a raised seal, then post a completely other exhibit and claim that is genuine, what credulity should anything the lying bastard says have? Yet more than one judge has claimed the twittered or net images prove the liar’s lies. Go figure ...
Natural Born citizenship can only come from being born on soil of the country to both parents owing no allegiance to another or having the possibility of passing their foreign citizenship on to their child. Naturally, someone born in that scenario owes no allegiance to another (foreign) country. It comes from not having to rely upon "mans" law's.
John Jay Says:
September 22, 2009 at 2:17 amThe Soetoro divorce case did not terminate until 11/26/1988. Check the dates and you will discover that this was on Saturday of the Thanksgiving weekend. courts aren’t open on Sat. As there are no court fees I have to assume someone visited the judge at home and he signed and dated something that terminated the case. Someone needed that divorce finalized ASAP. Also, according to his sister Maya, “on Thanksgiving in 1988,”Obama told them “no more Barry.” If I were a betting person, I would wager that any request for amending his bc would be in 1988.
Case Title: STANLEY ANN SOETORO VS LOLO SOETORO
Initiation Date: 08-20-1980 Initiation Type: P Confidential Code: N
Initiator I.D.: A1530 Division: Court: F
Cause of Action: DIVORCE Nature of Action: 01018 Section Code:
Trial Type: Trial Judge: Court Costs: 0000000000 Consolidation Code:
Case Disposition: Case Termination: Case Termination Date: 11-26-1988
Orig. Agency: Lower Court Case:
Taxation Dist.: Tax Appeal Source:
Gen. Ex. Tax Amt.: 0000000000 Gen. Ex. Tax No.: Tax Key:
Property Location:
Comments:
Non-Criminal
Not only judges...but most in Congress and the SRM (State Run Media) have relied upon the fraudulent doc as their "proof," even holding a copy up for all to see on their T.V.'s.
"However, historically, the Founding Fathers (almost to a certainty) meant that an NBC was born under United States jurisdiction to two citizen parents.This fits into English Common Law, upon which our law was derived."
Not true.
"It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.""III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established."
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
The English Common Law, as the Supreme Court explained here, was that someone born in the country is a "natural born subject", regardless of the citizenship of the parents.
Still, it might a difference on the margin.
Nevertheless, I'm not holding my breath. From my limited knowledge of Hawaiian law, there appears to be a legal conflict here. On the one hand, the law prohibits state officials from disclosing vital records to anyone who isn't an interested party. On the other hand, there appears to be this other law that requires release of the information upon which Fukino based her statement.
I'll bet that when the two laws conflict, the law protecting privacy dominates.
But we'll see. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and it would be nice if Bambi's birth records would be disclosed. It wouldn't make all the birthers go away, but maybe, just maybe they might make some people lest receptive to their paranoid conspiracy theories.
Wanting to know the truth now makes one a conspiracy theorist. Day id night and up id down.
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 Emmerich de Vattel, author of "The Law of Nations" (1758) |
Hawaiian Act 96
Cursor down just a bit from where this link opens.
Great post! Your research never fails to amaze me. It’s clear to me what a natural born citizen is and it’s also clear, Obummer is not a NBC.
This item was cut ‘n’ paste from the DHHL website on June 8, 2009, by me — it is word for word, with no edits.
From the DHHL website:
There are two categories of documents used in determining eligibility: primary and secondary.
Primary Documents
The primary documents used to show you are of age and a qualified native Hawaiian are:
A certified copy of Certificate of Birth;
A certified copy of Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, including testimonies; or
A certified copy of Certificate of Delayed Birth.
You will need the certified birth certificates for:
Yourself
Your biological father; and
Your biological mother
The state Department of Health, (DOH), Vital Records Section, records documents by island and district (geographically) and by the date of the event (chronologically).
If your biological parents’ documents don’t clearly prove that you have at least 50 percent Hawaiian ancestry, you will also need certified birth certificates for:
Your biological father’s parents; and
Your biological mother’s parents.
In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.
Hawaii Home Lands wouldn’t take it prior to 6/8/09, but Obama insists it certifies him to be Commander-in-Chief.
Sometime between 6/8/09 and 6/18/09, the DHHL scrubbed this page. They have changed the policy above. They will now accept Certifications of Live Birth. Click the link now. Check it out.
http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl
The 1911 law the you linked does not answer the question.
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