To: mojitojoe; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...
... as we know ... only Obama's mother was a US Citizen - his father was NOT.
![](http://fightthesmears.com/img/factcheckorg_logo.gif) "When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children."
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Let's look at what Vattel had to say in "The Law of Nations" (NOTE: nativeS, citizenS, parentS):
![Photobucket](http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu231/firewaller/VattelsNBC-LawofNations-citizenS.jpg)
Vattel's "The Law of Nations" is THE reference the Framers used to construct the
Declaration of Independence & US Constitution, as Ben Franklin reveals:
![Photobucket](http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu231/firewaller/BenFranklinonVattelplus1stand2ndCon.jpg)
So SIGNIFICANT was "The Law of Nations" to our Founders that it was ONE of the ONLY
TWO books purchased by Congress for use in writing laws in the 1700s:
![Photobucket](http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu231/firewaller/Firsttwobooks-VattelsLawofNatureand.jpg)
... There REALLY is no debate as to HOW the Framers,
many of whom were immigrants, defined "natural-born Citizen", or
WHO the Framers turned to define "natural-born Citizen" ...
![](http://www.lehigh.edu/~ejg1/irving/vattel.jpg) Emmerich de Vattel, author of "The Law of Nations" (1758)
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295 posted on
09/22/2009 12:27:28 PM PDT by
BP2
(I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
To: BP2
Great post! Your research never fails to amaze me. It’s clear to me what a natural born citizen is and it’s also clear, Obummer is not a NBC.
298 posted on
09/22/2009 12:37:32 PM PDT by
mojitojoe
(Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
To: BP2
"Law of Nations" is not the law. It's just a book.
English common law, an hence the US common law, is different. And according to it one is a "natural born subject/citizen" when born in the country, regardless of citizenship of the parents. Appealing to someone's book doesn't change that.
301 posted on
09/22/2009 12:42:05 PM PDT by
mlo
To: BP2
Precisely! Even in the original French version, it's clear:
![](http://www.birthers.org/img/Vattel.jpg)
Translating the french text: "les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays, de parents citoyens"
To English, gives this: "the natural, or indigenous, are those born in the country, parents who are citizens" "parents" & "born in the country"
SCOTUS is on record, multiple times, citing Vattel and/or the Natural Law definition for the term NBC:
"THE VENUS, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 289 (1814) (Marshall, C.J. concurring) (cites Vattels definition of Natural Born Citizen)
SHANKS V. DUPONT, 28 U.S. 242, 245 (1830) (same definition without citing Vattel)
MINOR V. HAPPERSETT, 88 U.S.162,167-168 ( 1875) (same definition without citing Vattel)
EX PARTE REYNOLDS, 1879, 5 Dill., 394, 402 (same definition and cites Vattel)
UNITED STATES V WARD, 42 F.320 (C.C.S.D. Cal. 1890) (same definition and cites Vattel.)"
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17519578/Kerchner-v-Obama-Congress-DOC-34-Plaintiffs-Brief-Opposing-Defendants-Motion-to-Dismiss
Now, SCOTUS needs to be on record citing Vattel and/or that definition for the specific purpose of POTUS Constitutional eligibility.
Barry never was an NBC.
302 posted on
09/22/2009 12:42:35 PM PDT by
rxsid
(HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
To: BP2
309 posted on
09/22/2009 1:01:10 PM PDT by
pissant
(THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
To: BP2
The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens,those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.
Is not Barry Soetoro a perfect case in point for the genius of our framers?
A question asked on the "Natural Born Citizen blog":
Im not sure I understand how Hawaiis Health Director, a physician, deems herself qualified to render an assessment of Obamas citizenship status (i.e. a natural born citizen). I mean, wouldnt you really need to be an attorney to render such an opinion in any court of law in these United States? Hello! Am I missing something here?
[Ed. We are all missing something. We have correspondence proving it was on the advice of the AG... this will be part of the judicial appeal.]
What do we know about the Hawaii Attorney General Mark Bennett? Why would he get involved with crafting a statement concerning 'NBC' status of Barry Soetoro?
338 posted on
09/22/2009 1:58:08 PM PDT by
Electric Graffiti
(Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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