Chester Arthur ~ likely White House usurper
Posted on 09/09/2009 6:37:26 PM PDT by STARWISE
Thomas F. Bayard was a US Senator from Delaware between 1869 and 1885, which includes the Chester Arthur administration. From 1885 to 1889, Bayard was Secretary of State under Grover Cleveland.
This is the same Bayard mentioned in Hinman’s book on Chester Arthur. Hinman wrote to Bayard and Bayard’s response has been erroneously cited by those who support Obama’s eligibility.
For some reason I have yet to comprehend, they argue Bayard was aware of Chester Arthur having been born a British subject.
But nothing in Bayard’s letter to Hinman supports that position.
Regardless, due to a recent find by the UNDEAD REVOLUTION research team, this issue has been settled once and for all.
The letter written by Bayard to Hinman is from 1884, while Chester was still President. But in 1885, as Secretary of State under Grover Cleveland, Bayard made an official ruling which firmly established his position as to the citizenship of persons born on US soil to foreign parents: they were not considered to be US citizens.
The evidence comes from the August 23, 1894, issue of The Nation magazine which states:
In 1885, Secretary Bayard decided that ‘the son of a German subject, born in Ohio, was not a citizen under the statute or the Constitution, because “he was on his birth ’subject to a foreign power,’ and ‘not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States’ “.
Here we have an official US State Department ruling from 1885 that people born in the US of foreign parentage are subject to foreign powers and not considered US citizens.
This provides proof positive Bayard had no idea whatsoever that, at the time of President Arthur’s birth, that Chester’s father William had not become a naturalized US citizen.
It’s important we note Bayard’s concern that the German subject was, “on his birth subject to a foreign power“. That’s the key. “On his birth”, Chester Arthur was born subject to a foreign power. “On his birth”, Barack Obama was born subject to a foreign power. Also, this official ruling concerned only the issue of whether the person was a “citizen” of the US, never mind “natural born”.
Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution requires that the President be a natural born citizen. The word “born” refers to the status of the President at the time of his birth, not any other time. Barack Obama and Chester Arthur were born to fathers who were not US citizens at the time each was born. Therefore, neither Obama nor Arthur should legally be President under the Constitution.
The Nation article appears below in full for your review.
Is this more information from U Conn?
Lots of $$$ passed that way.
ALSO.."....numerous changes of the family residences afforded a basis for allegations in 1880 that the son Chester was born not in Vermont, but in Canada, and was therefore ineligible for the presidency."
http://www.nndb.com/people/565/000024493/
~~More discovery from the UCONN Undead Revolution .. PING!
'Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish. Presidents with one immigrant parent are Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England, James Buchanan (1857-1861) and Chester Arthur (1881-1885), both of whom had Irish fathers, and Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) and Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), whose mothers were born respectively in England and Canada.'
~~More discovery from the UCONN Undead Revolution .. PING!
Jackson and Jefferson, born 1767 and 1743 respectively, were "Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution", and thus exempt from the natural born requirement. Since at the time of their births, the Carolinas and Virgina were *British* Colonies, the British citizenship both of their parents was not at all unusual, whether in England, the Americas or Ireland, which at the time was also part of the United Kingdom. Same for Buchanans father, unless he immigrated *after* 1789, which seems unlikely since Buchanan was born in 1791.
Even as late as Hoover was born, a foreign woman marrying a US citizen automatically became a *naturalized* citizen. So Hoover was born of two citizens, in the United States.
That leaves Arthur, whose father was not naturalized until well after Chester was born, in Vermont.
BTTT
Thank you so much ... I thought what you posted
was the truth, but was insure of the facts.
El Gato - thanks for clarifiying.
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