Posted on 08/29/2009 9:19:49 PM PDT by rxsid
"The Dual Cititzen POTUS Disqualification Issue Stands Alone.
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The dual citizen POTUS disqualification issue stands alone and should be set forth to stand or fall on its own merit separate from the birth certificate conspiracy theory. (Of course, conspiracies exist. But until facts are proved, they remain theories.)
Here is a rough draft of how I would accomplish the goal of setting forth the genuine legal question to stand or fall on its own merit in a complaint:
1. Barack Hussein Obama Jr. is not eligible to be President of the United States because – according to public admissions made by him – his “birth status was governed” by the United Kingdom. Obama further admits he was a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at birth.
2. Since Barack Hussein Obama Jr. was, if born in the state of Hawaii, a dual citizen, who – according to his own State Department – owed allegiance to the Queen of England and United Kingdom at the time of his birth – he cannot therefore be a “natural born” citizen of the US according to Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution.
3. This Honorable Court may take Judicial Notice of the following admissions published by Barack Hussein Obama Jr. [insert all published admissions in books, newspapers, official web sites etc.] For example:
- Admission #1. The following statement was published by Obama’s official web site, Fight The Smears:
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…”
4. This Honorable Court may also take Judicial Notice of the US State Department’s current policy under the Obama administration with regard to dual citizenship:
“The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person’s allegiance. However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there.“ (Emphasis added.)
That’s how you separate the issue and set it forth to stand or fall on its own merit.
Obama can’t provide any document which makes him eligible under the legal theory that a person such as him - a dual citizen owing allegiance to the very monarchy our founding fathers shed their blood to rid themselves of – was not at birth, and therefore can never be – a natural born citizen of the US."
Didn't complete the thought. The Xxth amendment states, in part:
The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, Thus when noon on the 20th came, they were outa there.
Don’t get the ‘standing’ thing considering he’s the president - aren’t we all hurt by not having someone who has allegiance to the USA?
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I’ll have to get back to you on that - not tonight ...
Basically, SCOTUS employs “standing” as a way to keep the courts from clogging up with frivolous lawsuits ...
British, Kenyan, Indonesian.
Notice I didn't say American, cause he definitely ain't one of US!
Donofrio raised another issue which rings true to me. I am old enough to remember the 60s. It was almost the norm among liberal young college women to hate America. It was tribal. The young people held parades on nice days protesting the Viet Nam war. Most grew out of it. Stanley Ann left the U.S. and virtually never came back. She may have given up her citizenship to accept that of her husband. As with most things about Barry, we don’t have the information about Stanley Ann. It seems to fit the puzzle of who he is, but isn’t necessary. Every path to the meaning of the Constitution leads to the same place: Because Barry was at best, by his own statements, a dual citizen at birth, he was not naturally-born a citizen. As Leo and our State Department explain, he was born with divided allegiances; just what John Jay, John Marshall, John Bingham, Joseph Story, Alexander Hamilton - dozens of supreme court justices - explain is the intention of the natural-born citizen requirement in Article II Sect 1.
If more citizens begin to understand this perhaps the court will have the courage to execute their responsiblity. If they don’t, the wreckage will be far greater.
If she claim Indonesian citizenship, whe could not be a duel citizen. See the Hague Convention of 1933. If one country did not accept duel citizenship than the other was nullified. Indonesia did NOT accept duel citizenship at the time SADO and Lolo were married.
I think the best approach we can take from here is for dual citizens to sue to be considered “natural born citizens” (NBC). This has happened already at a lower court and was thrown out.
If a group of dual citizens sued and were unsuccessful at achieving NBC status, we would have legal precident to throw Obama out of office.
Well how about those adversely affected by things issuing forth from the office of this Usurper in Chief -- like the decisions of his czars, the decrees of his appointments, executive orders, and things with his signature on them??? Don't those people have standing to contest these things on the basis that the Usurper is not Constitutionally qualified to issue them????
It's too bad that Bush didn't stand at the steps of the White House at High Noon and ask to see Obama's papers, and then require him to run to the Supreme Court to prove that he had standing to initiate eviction proceedings.
Thank you for taking the time to post this most interesting information. The logic is irrefutable.
I'm not sure there is any logic there. For one thing, using foreign law to decide who is eligible to be our President seems like a desperate move even for birthers.
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Other means exist to establish whether BO is a NBC, via ‘indirect’ routes outside of the courtroom. The strongest of these is, reporting to the state AG that NP (and the DNC) have perpetrated election fraud by submitting her signed Certification of Nomination to state elections officials to get them to print his name on the ballot; swearing he met all the qualifications BEFORE determining whether he was Constitutionally eligible for the job. In states that require the nominee to be eligible to get on the ballot, for example, TX, GA, and HI; swearing he is eligible before determining whether he is, constitutes election fraud. See what I mean? http://jbjd.wordpress.com
If such a suit were not related to the dual citizen(s) running for POTUS or VP, the court would dismiss it on the ground that the plaintiff(s) lacked standing, without reaching to the merits of the matter. That's because the plaintiff(s) would have no personal interest in a determination as to whether they were NBCs, since they could not claim that they were facing any harm if they lacked the NBC status. The bottom line is that your suggestion, unless a plaintiff were in the process of running for POTUS or VP, would be a waste of time and effort.
Leo is a good guy. He keeps coming up with great ideas.
I think you need 10,000 active duty military and a very good attorney filing the suit demanding expedited discovery and action through a Federal Court just below SCOTUS.
SCOTUS needs to deal with this.
I would have thought Dick Cheney would have had the guts and brians to get the information needed to insure the Republic woiuld be protected. Sad.
So, it's about Allegience, huh? Obama's allegience is first to Soros, then the Muslim Brotherhood, then the Black Panthers, then the Big Fat Cat Donors that he has to pay back, then the Far Left Radical Fringe, then the CPUSA, then the King of Saudi Arabia, then The Tides Foundation, then (I won't list the 78 radical lefty groups). . Oh, and the countries, let's see, Kenya, Britain, Indonesia, all the Muslim countries of the world and. . America? Oh. . . gee. . I didn't know. .
Yes, the one big disappointment with Cheney. I wish he could/would "straight out" sit down with us and explain why the silence on this issue? Blackmail? Some unknown national security issue? ?
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