Posted on 08/28/2009 8:52:10 AM PDT by Jay777
From Kennedys close friend Ed Klein:
I dont know if you know this or not, but one of his favorite topics of humor was indeed Chappaquiddick itself. And he would ask people, have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick? That is just the most amazing thing. Its not that he didnt feel remorse about the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, but that he still always saw the other side of everything and the ridiculous side of things, too.
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Burn in Hell you old fat SOB!
I guess when people have never ever had no told them ever in their life that getting away with murder must just be one big joke. Somehow though I think that by now the joke is over for him.
. . . Creepy .
Thia rationalization is stupidity to perfection.
Kennedy, if this story is true, seems to have abandoned his soul long before he died.
“If he would joke about the incident, then he was a more hideous scoundrel than even I suspected.”
Ditto that. And that comes from an opinion of this treacherous, deceitful, arrogant power seeking man that can hardly be lowered.
I dont know if you know this or not, but one of his favorite topics of humor was indeed Chappaquiddick itself.
And he would ask people, have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick?
Wow. Just wow.
Real funny, Teddy.
I suggest EVERYONE email this to all the MTM that they can ....... especially the ones showing 24/7 of this man’s hearse going down around a -— highway! Big news!
Can someone post a list of Media emails we can use to BCC as a group???
Useful in the future until we are all re-educated???
I’m sick of hearing about this Harvard cheatin’ expelled twice (!) no-brained murdering creep and Big O toadie drunkard referred to as if he is or were some kind of great guy - he isn’t and he wasn’t.
He is one of the worst human beings of the last 70 years ——— and I ain’t so sure about the “human” part.
Chappaquiddick.
Read the book.
You will revile him more than ever.
Chappaquiddick.
Let it be written large on his Arlington tombstone.
Chappaquiddick ...
4 married men and 5 unmarried young girls with 2 cardboard boxes full of booze purchased at the liquor store.........
Chappaquiddick.
Democrats.
Go together.
That being said....this revelation sheds an entirely new light on the extent of this worthless piece of excrement's utter depravity.
Good grief! What a freak!
Its hard to say bad things of the dead but since this guy was considered the Lion of the Senate, I have a few comments:
I have long said the US should give Massachusettes back to the King because any group of people that sent this bastard back to the senate as many times as they did deserve to be elsewhere.
What galls me to no end is the line of his pals in the GOP side of the aisle who speak well of him. You know, my grandmother used to say to me you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep (same goes for the clown in the Oval office).
That letter he wrote to the USSR trying to undermine the President’s authority to deploy missiles in western europe was beyond the pale. He should have been hung for treason at that point.
No sense going over the old news about the Mary Jo killing. It is well known but perhaps not as well known is he tried to get someone else to take the fall for it.
They should flush his body down the toilet, not bury it among the honored dead at Arlington.
Vince
“Its not that he didnt feel remorse about the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, but that he still always saw the other side of everything and the ridiculous side of things, too.”
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Straight from the Good is Bad, Black is White, Up is Down counterculture, moral-relativism horses@#t that descended upon us somewhere in the mid 1960’s.
Ha, Ha!
I got away with manslaughter!
Ha, ha!
The liquor industry has lost a great friend and supporter......It is asked that all liquor bottles be displayed at half-empty out of respect and honor.....
I’m surprised his liver didn’t give out before his brain.
They can’t bury him at sea beacause sh*t floats.....
If anyone is really interested in this topic, the best book, by far, is “Senatorial Privilege”. It is highly footnoted and documented, and discusses every aspect of the case from the political and social down to the minute by minute timeline.
I have read it twice. For my part I cannot bear to hear the hagiographic crap said and written about this person. He deserved to be thrown in jail for what he did to Mary Jo Kopechne, but he has a whole list of items tallied against him following the death of MJK, which is (and should be) at the top of the list.
In particualar, his backdoor contacts with Yuri Andropov through an intermediary as described in this document unearthed when the KGB opened the files in 1990.
Credit goes to Paul Kengor and his book “The Crusader Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism.”
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Appendix
TEXT OF KGB LETTER ON SENATOR TED KENNEDY
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Special Importance
Committee on State Security of the USSR
14.05. 1983 No. 1029 Ch/OV
Moscow
Regarding Senator Kennedys request to the General Secretary of the Communist Party Comrade Y.V. Andropov
Comrade Y.V. Andropov
On 9-10 May of this year, Senator Edward Kennedys close friend and trusted confidant J. Tunney was in Moscow. The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Center Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov.
Senator Kennedy, like other rational people, is very troubled by the current state of Soviet-American relations. Events are developing such that this relationship coupled with the general state of global affairs will make the situation even more dangerous. The main reason for this is Reagans belligerence, and his firm commitment to deploy new American middle range nuclear weapons within Western Europe.
According to Kennedy, the current threat is due to the Presidents refusal to engage any modification on his politics. He feels that his domestic standing has been strengthened because of the well publicized improvement of the economy: inflation has been greatly reduced, production levels are increasing as is overall business activity. For these reasons, interest rates will continue to decline. The White House has portrayed this in the media as the success of Reaganomics.
Naturally, not everything in the province of economics has gone according to Reagans plan. A few well known economists and members of financial circles, particularly from the north-eastern states, foresee certain hidden tendencies that many bring about a new economic crisis in the USA. This could bring about the fall of the presidential campaign of 1984, which would benefit the Democratic party. Nevertheless, there are no secure assurances this will indeed develop.
The only real threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations. These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign. The movement advocating a freeze on nuclear arsenals of both countries continues to gain strength in the United States. The movement is also willing to accept preparations, particularly from Kennedy, for its continued growth. In political and influential circles of the country, including within Congress, the resistence to growing military expenditures is gaining strength.
However, according to Kennedy, the opposition to Reagan is still very weak. Reagans adversaries are divided and the presentations they make are not fully effective. Meanwhile, Reagan has the capabilities to effectively counter any propaganda. In order to neutralize criticism that the talks between the USA and the USSR are non-constructive, Reagan will grandiose, but subjectively propagandistic. At the same time, Soviet officials who speak about disarmament will be quoted out of context, silenced or groundlessly and whimsically discounted. Although arguments and statements by officials of the USSR do appear in the press, it is important to note the majority of Americans do not read serious newspapers or periodicals.
Kennedy believes that, given the current state of affairs, and in the interest of peace, it would be prudent and timely to undertake the following steps to counter the militaristic politics of Reagan and his campaign to psychologically burden the American people. In this regard, he offers the following proposals to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union Y.V. Andropov:
1. Kennedy asks Y.V. Andropov to consider inviting the senator to Moscow for a personal meeting in July of this year. The main purpose of the meeting, according to the senator, would be to arm Soviet officials with explanations regarding problems of nuclear disarmament so they may be better prepared and more convincing during appearances in the USA. He would also like to inform you that he has planned a trip through Western Europe, where he anticipates meeting Englands Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and French President Mitterand in which he will exchange similar ideas regarding the same issues.
If his proposals would be accepted in principle, Kennedy would send his representative to Moscow to resolve questions regarding organizing such a visit.
Kennedy thinks the benefits of a meeting with Y.V.Andropov will be enhanced if he could also invite one of the well known Republican senators, for example, Mark Hatfield. Such a meeting will have a strong impact on American and political circles in the USA (In March of 1982, Hatfield and Kennedy proposed a project to freeze the nuclear arsenals of the USA and USSR and pblished a book on the theme as well.)
2. Kennedy believes that in order to influence Americans it would be important to organize in August-September of this year, televised interviews with Y.V. Andropov in the USA. A direct appeal by the General Secretary to the American people will, without a doubt, attact a great deal of attention and interest in the country. The senator is convinced this would receive the maximum resonance in so far as television is the most effective method of mass media and information.
If the proposal is recognized as worthy, then Kennedy and his friends will bring about suitable steps to have representatives of the largest television companies in the USA contact Y.V. Andropov for an invitation to Moscow for the interview. Specifically, the president of the board of directors of ABC, Elton Raul and television columnists Walter Cronkite or Barbara Walters could visit Moscow. The senator underlined the importance that this initiative should be seen as coming from the American side.
Furthermore, with the same purpose in mind, a series of televised interviews in the USA with lower level Soviet officials, particularly from the military would be organized. They would also have an opportunity to appeal directly to the American people about the peaceful intentions of the USSR, with their own arguments about maintaining a true balance of power between the USSR and the USA in military term. This issue is quickly being distorted by Reagans administration.
Kennedy asked to convey that this appeal to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union is his effort to contribute a strong proposal that would root out the threat of nuclear war, and to improve Soviet-American relations, so that they define the safety of the world. Kennedy is very impressed with the activities of Y.V. Andropov and other Soviet leaders, who expressed their commitment to heal international affairs, and improve mutal understandings between peoples.
The senator underscored that he eagerly awaits a reply to his appeal, the answer to which may be delivered through Tunney.
Having conveyed Kennedys appeal to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Tunney also explained that Senator Kennedy has in the last few years actively made appearances to reduce the threat of war. Because he formally refused to partake in the election campaign of 1984, his speeches would be taken without prejudice as they are not tied to any campaign promises. Tunney remarked that the senator wants to run for president in 1988. At that time, he will be 56 and his personal problems, which could hinder his standing, will be resolved (Kennedy has just completed a divorce and plans to remarry in the near future). Taken together, Kennedy does not discount that during the 1984 campaign, the Democratic Party may officially turn to him to lead the fight against the Republicans and elect their candidate president. This would explain why he is convinced that none of the candidates today have a real chance at defeating Reagan.
We await instructions.
President of the committee
V. Chebrikov
Ed Klein was basically the official Kennedy biographer.
Agreed. See my post at #38.
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