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MUST, -- MUST, -- READ --- FULLEST ANALYSIS SO FAR AS TO OBAMA BIRTH ELIGIBILITY STATUS
antimullah.com ^ | August 25, 2009 | STEPHAN TONCHEN

Posted on 08/25/2009 6:30:47 PM PDT by kellynla

Despite the mainstream news media's silence regarding this matter, an increasing number of Americans are concerned that Barack Obama might not be eligible, under the Constitution, to serve as President.

According to the U.S. Constitution, an individual born after 1787 cannot legally or legitimately serve as U.S. President unless he or she is a "natural born citizen" of the United States.

Among members of Congress and the mainstream news media, the consensus of opinion is that anyone born in the United States is a "natural born citizen". However, when we researched this issue a bit more carefully, we found that the consensus opinion is not consistent with American history.

In Minor v. Happersett (1874), the Supreme Court said that, if you were born in the United States and both of your parents were U.S. citizens at the time of your birth, you are, without doubt, a natural born citizen. In the same case, the Supreme Court also said that, if you were born in the United States and one of your parents was not a U.S. citizen when you were born, your natural born citizenship is in doubt. So far, the Supreme Court has not resolved this doubt because, until now, there has never been any need to do so.

With only two exceptions, every American President, who was born after 1787, was born in the United States, to parents who were both U.S. citizens. The two exceptions were Chester Arthur and Barack Obama. When Chester Arthur ran for office, the public did not know about his eligibility problem. Only recently did historians learn that, when Arthur was born, his father was not a U.S. citizen.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; eligibilty; obama; potus
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To: 353FMG

I would compare the issue to a convenient store robbery where the cashier is caught off guard in the restroom, doesn’t see the perpetrator, and a customer ID’s the robber as he is exiting the store.

As the police arrives, the customer tries to get the cop’s attention to describe the robber...

But the cop ignores the witness because he doesn’t run the store... and when the witness insists that he saw the robber, the police merely suggests that his testimony is worth nothing in court.


21 posted on 08/25/2009 7:16:06 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: wisconsin synod Lutheran
“Even if true that Obama should not have taken office because of his birth, the insult to injury would still be . That there still is no leagal way united states citizens can remove such a president after they take office.”

I realize you just signed up on FR just last Friday but “if” Hussein refuses to step down, does the word “impeachment” ring a bell with you?

Oh and by the way, I don't know what planet you're from but we capitalize United States here on earth and it is not very good posture to question legality by misspelling the word, Newbie. I think they're looking for you over at the DU.

22 posted on 08/25/2009 7:16:38 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Mr. K

I’ve asked that same question to a dozen attorneys, and each one has a slightly different answer...from “it’s got to come from the Congress” to “it would have to be another legitimate candidate of the same election” to “has to be challenged as part of the electoral college” to “has to be challenged by the Senate or the outgoing VP”...

No real consensus from any of the ‘experts’ to a question that the average American can answer just this simply: ANY US CITIZEN should have standing to question the eligibility of ANY elected official.

This is a critical Constitutional issue and deserves a full and complete hearing and resolution.

Keep the heat on him. The truth will come out.


23 posted on 08/25/2009 7:17:33 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: doodles2
“I believe John McCain was born outside the US to parents who were both citizens at the time.”

Correctomundo.

McCain is a natural-born citizen, even though he was not born within this country's borders (Panama), since his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. As a congressional act stated in 1790:

Congress: “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.”

24 posted on 08/25/2009 7:31:50 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: PubliusMM
“This is a critical Constitutional issue”

I don't think it's so “critical”...

Hussein's father was a Kenyan therefore Hussein is ineligible to be POTUS no matter where he was born !

25 posted on 08/25/2009 7:37:46 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

WRONGAMUNDO dude.

1790 law was repealed by 1795 law. Juan McSame is NOT a natural born citizen


26 posted on 08/25/2009 7:38:26 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Mr. K

Every single US citizen *DOES* have legal standing, my FRiend. But the existing administration fails to recognize it ... intentionally so. Your comment about being rode out on a rail is apropos. When a government becomes tyrannical, revolution is the citizens' only recourse.


27 posted on 08/25/2009 7:41:38 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: kellynla
So far, the Supreme Court has not resolved this doubt because, until now, there has never been any need to do so.

Just an opion but I think Supremes would rule that a natural born citizen is anyone born here regardless of their parents. I don't agree with that position but I think that is what would happen if this particular court ruled on it.

Doesn't matter - really. The larger issue is there is a cloud hanging over this and it needs to be resolved based on facts and a SC ruling on exactly what is a "Natural born citizen". Let the chips fall where they may. But the sloppiness going on here and lack of due dilligence is truly astounding. We as a country don't even know if our President is eligible. It is mindboggling and unacceptable.

28 posted on 08/25/2009 7:46:11 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: kellynla
This was a very good article BUT it was not totally accurate and left things out. No mention of the COLB being FAKE. Conclusions of Obummer’s long form BC saying he was born in Hawaii has no proof. 1982 law update talks about Hawaii when it was a territory. It wasn't a territory in 1982 so why does it include “territory” several times if it wasn't including that time period? Indonesia left out. All references of lower courts and jurisdictions declaring people or defining natural born citizen are IRRELEVANT. Constitution trumps everything. 14th amendment again has NOTHING to do with it as it never mentions NBC. All in all it was informative and has a lot of info for someone who has no knowledge of the issue.
29 posted on 08/25/2009 7:48:40 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: kellynla
Hussein's father was a Kenyan therefore Hussein is ineligible to be POTUS no matter where he was born !

Yep. This has always been an issue regarding his parents. If Barak Sr. is indeed Jr' s father then the current occupant of the White House IS a usurper.

The term natural born citizen is required for the job of POTUS. Both parents must be US citizens born on US soil.

30 posted on 08/25/2009 7:54:01 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: All

__________________________

Canada Free Press
JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

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But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

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Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

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DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

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A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

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A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials!

Today’s radio interview in Israel with Dr. Orly.
Discusses bc, Obama not elgible due to being British citizen, death threats, Obots tampering with her car:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/1302

Dr. Orly Taitz storms Israel making a clear case for Obama (TV)
inelgibility- Obama is a British citizen.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Dr. Orly’s official website:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/
Or Dr. Orly’s blog:
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

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31 posted on 08/25/2009 7:59:40 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: faucetman

Act of 1795

“and the children of citizens of the United States born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States.”

I believe John McCain qualifies...”dude!”


32 posted on 08/25/2009 8:39:06 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: doodles2
I don't know how it works but military dependents (children) who are born overseas while their parents are serving (stationed, etc) are considered US citizens.

I had a little trouble registering to vote the first time because the lady didn't realize that Guam was a US territory. lol I had several friends growing up who were born overseas (Germany, Japan and one Commander's daughter who was born in Bahrain) and they are all US citizens. Natural born? I don't know but I would assume so.

33 posted on 08/25/2009 8:53:23 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: Safrguns

hehehe, i figured the cop would haul away the witness and the clerk would just shrug and say thanks for solving the case...


34 posted on 08/25/2009 9:27:07 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Luke 22:36...Trust in the Lord...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: kellynla
McCain is a natural-born citizen, even though he was not born within this country's borders (Panama), since his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. As a congressional act stated in 1790:

Congress: “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.”

You need to start reading again, That part of the Naturalization Act was repealed in 1794.

35 posted on 08/25/2009 9:30:28 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: plain talk

“I think Supremes would rule that a natural born citizen is anyone born here regardless of their parents.”

Precisely.


36 posted on 08/25/2009 9:41:05 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: WOSG

Not so precise.


37 posted on 08/25/2009 10:02:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: kellynla
To get into deep technicalities, is there or is there not a US Constitutional requirement for the Vice President of the USA to be a natural born citizen ? because Chester A. Arthur was sworn into office after James Garfield was shot and died.
Besides, why do the liberals want to dig up the past, can't change the past, why do they want to insist that Chester Arthur's dad was not born in the USA ?
Chester A Arthur was born in Franklin country Vermont, so he is and was a natural born citizen.

38 posted on 08/25/2009 10:06:27 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: WOSG

ok so a foundling with no known parents is ekigibke to be US President? A child of two illegal aliens is eligible?


39 posted on 08/25/2009 10:08:34 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: April Lexington
The Failed , illegitimate, and non legal Obama Administration
40 posted on 08/25/2009 10:11:59 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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