Posted on 08/03/2009 8:21:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I haven’t run too many stories on this Obama birth certificate stuff. It seemed too far out, at least at first. Many of the lawsuits brought up on this subject were thrown out. Several of the original movers and shakers were people with, um, a bit of a wobbly reputation. But the story persists. Just last week I watched Ann Coulter cut the Birthers off at the knees, write them off as nut cases, and distance herself from their quest. Birthers are the new 9/11 Conspiracy Truthers.
But unlike the Truthers, the Birthers questions can be answered. It really does look like our new President is hiding his past. Sure, he came out of nowhere, with very little job experience, and lied in public left and lefter about his former associates, commies and agitators all. And he got away with it. Even though he wrote in his two books how he hung out with these types, nobody listened. So We elected a pig in a poke, a guy with no background, a halfrican enigma who’s only real skill was delivering meaningless sound bites that sounded real nice.
But Obama’s past is still under wraps. Nobody can dig up any information on him. Not his primary school records, not his college work, just one or two short essays from his time as president of the Harvard Law Review. Nobody can be found who took his courses, yet we’re told he was a professor of Constitutional Law, or at least a guest lecturer on the subject. Somewhere in between? Where’s the Beef™? He worked at a law office. Right down the hall from Bill Ayers. The guy who he claims not to know. The guy who used to babysit his kids. Under the bus. But even his former coworkers hardly knew he was there. Going back a bit in time, how did this guy get into Ivy League schools? Who paid the tuition? And then there’s that whole ACORN connection, and his time spent as a rabble rouser and protester trainer community organizer and grass roots campaigning consultant. It’s all a big mystery. We’ve been fed a pile of misinformation, yet at the same time nuggets of truth may have been delivered but were then ignored. Go figure. Most folks didn’t notice it. Most folks don’t question his eligibility to be President. Very few even understand the laws that were in place back in 1961, and even fewer realize that those are the laws that apply to the Birther question, not the laws we have today. Heck, I had to go back and count months on my fingers to accept that his mother was actually a statutory rape victim; she wasn’t 18 yet when she became pregnant with him. So this confusing thing gets swept under the bus rug. Except that every week, every time some news piece mentions Africa, we hear how thrilled the people there are that we in the USA actually have a President who was born in Africa. So the rumors don’t die.
Ok, here’s the latest. And it comes from World Net Daily. A paper that hasn’t had the best reputation for journalistic integrity in the past. But who can point that finger anymore? No paper seems to have much integrity anymore, and at least one of those gossip rags has broken a major story in the past that the “respected” papers wouldn’t touch. So where does that leave us?
BORN IN THE USA?
Is this really smoking gun of Obama’s Kenyan birth? Attorney files motion for authentication of alleged 1960s certificate from Africa
California attorney Orly Taitz, who has filed a number of lawsuits demanding proof of Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president, has released a copy of what purports to be a Kenyan certification of birth and has filed a new motion in U.S. District Court for its authentication.
The document lists Obama’s parents as Barack Hussein Obama and Stanley Ann Obama, formerly Stanley Ann Dunham, the birth date as Aug. 4, 1961, and the hospital of birth as Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
No doctor is listed. But the alleged certificate bears the signature of the deputy registrar of Coast Province, Joshua Simon Oduya. It was allegedly issued as a certified copy of the original in February 1964.
WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.
... Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn’t want his name known because “he’s afraid for his life.”
Taitz’s motion, filed yesterday in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, requests the purported evidence of Obama’s birth – both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not yet obtained – be preserved from destruction, asks for permission to legally request documents from Kenya and seeks a subpoena for deposition from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
“I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds,” Taitz told WND. “I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate]. ... Taitz’s most celebrated case involved a military officer, Maj. Stefan Cook, whose order to deploy to Afghanistan was revoked when he challenged Obama’s eligibility to hold office. That case has now been refiled in federal court in Florida, raising the specter of a class-action claim among members of the military that their orders aren’t valid because of questions surrounding Obama’s constitutional eligibility. ... Named as defendants are Simtech, Cook’s former civilian employer, and several officials, including Col. Louis B. Wingate and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.
Here is the link. Pictures of an alleged real Kenyan birth certificate, embossed, numbered, and signed.
It looks like Taitz has a document, and he has a client with actual standing. So his case ought not to be dismissed out of hand, as so many of the other ones were.
The first problem, as I see it, is that the public has come to realize that nothing is true anymore, no document can be trusted as genuine, and that the media will lie, cheat, steal, and flout Fake But Accurate to achieve their goals. All the trust has been leeched from the system. Truth is not true unless you want it to be. OJ didn’t do it. (well, until he wrote a book saying how he did it). Bush lied. When he didn’t. Clinton was framed, because it was just sex and everybody lies about that. Bush stole the election. Twice! 9/11 was an inside job. The moon landing was faked. The Tet Offensive was a victory for North Vietnam and America was in an unwinnable war there. The lying liars and the lies they’ve told have worn away trust until it’s not even a shadow anymore. So who are you going to believe? Some faceless official in Hawaii, who claims a recent digital record is the real thing, supported by a web page that accepts a recent reprint as the original?
If the Kenyan allegation is correct, then we have an even bigger second problem. That would mean that Obama is a usurper, an illegitimate president. Now, how are you going to toss this guy out of office without massive amounts of blood in the streets? Because you know the inner cities will burn. You know that every black person in America is going to go apesh*t. And half of the white people will somehow see this as a coup by those secret forces that really run the world - even though it would be a Democrat majority House and Senate doing the tossing. If all this high speed push to Socialism hasn’t brought the nation to the edge of violent revolution, giving a Kenyan the boot will do it. And the Red Banner will have it’s greatest martyr ever.
she went at it with some gomer on msLSD today. I can’t imagine that anyone (unless it was a liberal scum) would try to put up a fake KNOWING it would be under the heaviest of scrutiny by everyone, ‘rat and conservative....
“he seems to think that Orly Taitz is a man.”
well he might think Hillary is a man, too, absent an understandable reason for a “deposition” from her....I am recognizing that Hillary just might be Taitz’ source of the document, unspent ammunition she collected for the primary or that it arrived too late?
“the document came from an anonymous source who doesn’t want his name known because “he’s afraid for his life.”
“to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton”
He is maybe not right on statutory rape law in Hawaii either. A website I found indicates a current age of consent of 16. Hard to believe it was higher in 1961.
http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/images/DavidJeffreyBomfordBirthCertDoc65.jpg
It’s a forgery. Case closed.
I think it also depends on the age of the other party, as well, doesn’t it?
Sniff, sniff at post #6.
here come the puddy cats for ya....
Tried the link a few times; . . . HTTP 404 Not Found . . .
It's dead, Jim.
obumpa
ding dong
Apparently yes as of 2003.
This site:
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/olrdata/jud/rpt/2003-R-0376.htm
says for Hawaii:
“First-degree sexual assault to knowingly engage in sexual penetration (1) with someone under age 14 or (2) with someone between age 14 and 16 when the offender is more than five years older.”
Whether there was an age difference in the early 1960s and whether the age was 16 or 14 is hard to know. I think it would have been unusual for the age to have been 18 in the early 1960s.
Wow, and this being posted by somebody who's been a member of Free Republic for two whole days!
He's a troll. Case closed.
get lost young’n.
Document #47O44
“47” year old “0”bama is the “44”th President.
Yes, troll, the Bomford exhibit is a forgery, fabrciated by Koyaan. What’s your point, troll?
You obamanoids don’t stay current with the frauds do you? The E.F Lavender, and 47044 are fabrications after the initial image from Orly’s site was posted. Now her site has a fake and so does the scrib site. So, obamanoid troll, what’s next on the talking points diversion and deception list.
The TRUTH is OUT THERE!!!! A conspiracy of hackers got on Orly’s site and made it LOOK like an obvious fraud!!!! OMG!!! OH NOES!!!!/s
Have another drink and calm down. You discredit yourself and your movement by attacking anybody who points out the truth as an “obamanoid troll”.
The linked document had 47O44; I want Freepers to be aware that this is a fraud.
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