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"Birthers" need to learn how to strike back at the MSM
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Posted on 07/27/2009 2:21:01 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
The MSM and much of the Beltway establishment - GOP and Dem - has declared war on the "Birthers", but most of the latter group isn't fighting back in an effective way. That's unfortunate, since this is a golden opportunity to discredit the MSM due to all their lies and misleading statements about this issue. (If you don't understand the impact the MSM has on millions of Americans or you don't want to discredit them or you aren't willing to do a little work to discredit them, feel free to move on to the next thread.)
The way to discredit them is easy to state: tell the truth and at the same time show others how a specific reporter isn't telling the truth. Obviously, it's a lot more difficult in practice, but it's hardly impossible.
For a specific example, see this post from yesterday. In that post, I attempted to show how Howard Kurtz was misleading his viewers. And, I designed that post in such a way that others would be able to find it: it's currently in the first page of Google search results for his name plus the name of his show. Unfortunately, on that thread I didn't exactly get the backup I was looking for, such as replies offering other examples of Kurtz being misleading. Instead, I got an embarrassing graphic, someone playing the stock "red herring" card, and someone else criticizing my use of the phrase "not so much" (?!). None of those exactly help my attempts to show others - not just those who are members of this site - that he's wrong.
For a current example of what you can do, please watch this video about Howard Kurtz. If it gets enough views initially, it might make one of Youtube's lists-of-the-day and get even more. And, if it gets high enough ratings and enough views, it might turn up near the top of Youtube search results for his name. Also, please use the email addresses in the video description to contact his editors and let them know you know. And, for extra credit, Digg my post about this here and Reddit it here.
The goal of all of the above is to make him realize that his credibility is on the line and that he needs to issue a correction. If we can get a media figure like him to issue a correction, that would not only take the wind out of the MSM's sails, but it might force them to start doing real reporting.
TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; msm; obama
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
Do you know if there are any birther groups that are planning any type of protest for Aug. 4th?
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posted on
07/27/2009 2:23:20 PM PDT
by
murron
(Proud Marine Mom)
To: lonewacko_dot_com
The media lies about anything which they’re talking about, and if it doesn’t fit their template that Obama is a messiah, they destroy that person or persons.
3
posted on
07/27/2009 2:26:57 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
(Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
To: lonewacko_dot_com
Truth in journalism died when Walter Cronkite declared the Tet Offensive a failure in 1968.
4
posted on
07/27/2009 2:28:22 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
(Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
To: lonewacko_dot_com
I'd like to see 0bama’s college transcripts too, but I'm not going to hold my breath on that one either.
The media lap dogs will spend all of their time and effort insulting and attacking anyone who dares question 0bama, and zero time and effort pursuing anything that questions their ‘fearless leader’ or his socialist, anti-American agenda.
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posted on
07/27/2009 2:33:18 PM PDT
by
airborne
(Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS RULE!!!)
To: lonewacko_dot_com
The most persuasive argument seems to be:
“If he’s got nothing to hide, why won’t he just release the information?”
Ask people “What would you think if it was your kid or spouse?”
Common sense can sometimes be non-partisan ;-)
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posted on
07/27/2009 2:36:17 PM PDT
by
bigbob
To: lonewacko_dot_com
Go after their sponsors and threaten not to purchase their products.The old “hit em in the wallet” tactic always works.
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posted on
07/27/2009 2:41:20 PM PDT
by
taxtruth
To: lonewacko_dot_com
Can’t you just ask one question:
Who was the attending physician?
Ask it of everybody - including Ann Coulter, Michael Medved, J. Emmet Tyrrell, Bill O’Reilly.
Who was the attending physician?
To: bigbob
If my kid or spouse were the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES that would make a bit of a difference now wouldn’t it?
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posted on
07/27/2009 2:49:51 PM PDT
by
Vindibudd
To: lonewacko_dot_com
I’m always amazed how much air time the MSM gave the “Inside Job” people without hinting they were loons. Or the extensive interviews of Michael Moore when he released that Fake-u-mentary Fahrenheit 9/11. But let a group say “we hearing differing reports about your birth - can we see the Birth Certificate” and everybody’s nuts.
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posted on
07/27/2009 2:57:29 PM PDT
by
Right Cal Gal
(Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
To: lonewacko_dot_com
How ‘bout we start asking the question: “Is the son of a British national really a natural born citizen and eligible to be President?”.
Take the discussion away from the birth certificate and put it on a point of law.
The birth certificate is a distraction. If he really does pony up a birth certificate (real or fake) and it shows he was born in Hawaii, the “birthers” look like fools and the whole subject of his eligibility based on dual citizenship at birth goes into the background noise and the war is lost.
The only way this gets resolved is by the Supreme Court adjudicating the definition of nbc.
To: BigSkyFreeper
Truth in journalism died when Walter Cronkite declared the Tet Offensive a failure in 1968. Well to be correct the Tet Offensive was failure.
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posted on
07/27/2009 3:09:06 PM PDT
by
MilspecRob
(Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
To: BigSkyFreeper
Amen bro, I lived that mess and we kicked thier ass but good.
13
posted on
07/27/2009 3:25:16 PM PDT
by
devistate one four
(Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
To: lonewacko_dot_com
The
White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts.
Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."
Even
the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".
A
bill in the US congress with 10 backers currently -- calls for future presidential candidates to be required to show a birth certificate.
The
library of congress has recently started including the Obama File in its historic collections of Internet materials related to the Presidential Transition during a Time of Crises.
The Obama File holds that Obama's birth certificate as presented online is bogus.
Now this story is starting to change. Some liberals in an open acknowledgement of Obama's problems are starting to call for a change in the constitution.
Liberal defenders of Obama in full retreat on Birth CertificateNow The
LA Times Wants To Amend the Constitution Rather Than Have Obama Show His Birth Certificate. (Translation: Yeah hes not a Natural Born Citizen As the Constitution Requires.)
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posted on
07/27/2009 3:25:33 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: lonewacko_dot_com
The
White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts.
Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."
Even
the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".
A
bill in the US congress with 10 backers currently -- calls for future presidential candidates to be required to show a birth certificate.
The
library of congress has recently started including the Obama File in its historic collections of Internet materials related to the Presidential Transition during a Time of Crises.
The Obama File holds that Obama's birth certificate as presented online is bogus.
Now this story is starting to change. Some liberals in an open acknowledgement of Obama's problems are starting to call for a change in the constitution.
Liberal defenders of Obama in full retreat on Birth CertificateNow The
LA Times Wants To Amend the Constitution Rather Than Have Obama Show His Birth Certificate. (Translation: Yeah hes not a Natural Born Citizen As the Constitution Requires.)
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posted on
07/27/2009 3:26:03 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: Larry - Moe and Curly
His daddy was kenyan and so is he!
Law of nations, the guiding light for the framers.
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posted on
07/27/2009 3:28:38 PM PDT
by
devistate one four
(Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
To: eCSMaster
The document cited as his proof is a substitute document for those without an official Hawaiian Birth Certificate.
Why does he have the substitute?
Maybe he was born in Hawaii....before official statehood??
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posted on
07/27/2009 3:28:38 PM PDT
by
Eagle Eye
(Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
To: MilspecRob
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posted on
07/27/2009 3:29:38 PM PDT
by
devistate one four
(Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
To: MilspecRob
Well to be correct the Tet Offensive was failure.Bullcrap. Only if you believe everything you've read in high school or see on The History Channel.
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posted on
07/27/2009 3:29:47 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
(Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
To: BigSkyFreeper
uth in journalism died when Walter Cronkite declared the Tet Offensive a failure in 1968.
You mean when he declared it a Success. Cronkite made it seem that the VC had won, when in fact they lost every engagement, and soundly.
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posted on
07/27/2009 3:33:50 PM PDT
by
JoeA
(JoeA / welcome to third world politics.)
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