Limbaugh: "..Obama has yet to have to prove he's a citizen. All he'd have to do is show a BC"

Media Matters | 7/20/09 | A girly man

[pissant]

Can't post David Brock/George Soros Media Matters, but this headline was too much to pass up.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200907200028

[Jeff Head]

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

[GonzoGOP]

Something has happened on this issue. People who used to avoid it are now talking about it. I don't know if it was the fact they wouldn't go to trial with the reservist, or if the Dem's are realizing that Obama is poison and are going to use this as a way to get rid of him, without having to admit they were wrong about his policies.

[patriot08]

ONE individual has almost single handedly brought Obama's inelgibility to U.S and world wide attention. This brave little Russian refugee lady has put her life on hold- and in danger to try to save YOUR country. She flies all over the U.S. serving papers, giving speeches, meeting with various officials and giving interviews. This involves great expense, and it is reported that Dr. Orly is over $8,000 in debt from using her own funds in her fight to prove Obama's ineligibility. She needs researchers, lawyers and other volunteers. Please do what you can to help her. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ Dr. Orly has added renouned attorney, Stephen Pidgeon as her assistant: http://stephenpidgeon.com/ http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2816 .

[duckman]

IMO, I think it was the soldier who refused orders because zero is not a citizen.

[john mirse]

A look at a Hawaii 1961 blank birth certificate.

A poster at World Net Daily found some Hawaii government documents from 1961.

Included in the documents that the WND poster found is a standard 1961 blank birth certificate.

Here is what the WND poster wrote:

"RE: Race

Go to the following and download the 1961 document http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/

here is a direct link to the file:

http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf

then go to the Technical Appendix, Section 5 and then on page 231 on race and color.

The Birth Certificate is based on a standard. I have been saying this for months. The State of Hawaii has to follow the CDC guidelines as this data is compiled for other statics."

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This is me, mirse, writing: When you see the document above on your monitor screen, follow these directions to see the 1961 blank birth certificate:

1. Left side: Look for "Section 5: Technical Appendix"

2. Then go to Right side: Look for "Standard certificate page 5.3"

3. Note: On my computer, it is page 228 of 246, while on the document itself, it is page 5.3.

4. As I studied the 1961 blank birth certificate, I saw potential political minefields if Obama's long form birth certificate is ever released by Hawaii.

5. Let me emphasize this: I don't want Obama to release his long form birth certificate. I want the Hawaii government to release it, because I don't trust anything that the Obama camp releases.

6. My point is this: I don't want anyone in the Obama camp to touch Obama's long form birth certificate once the Hawaii government releases it. Again, I don't want anyone in the Obama camp to touch the long form birth certificate before it is released to the public.

7. Again, I saw a few items in the 1961 blank Hawaii birth certificate that may be serious problems for Obama.

8. NOTE: The items on the birth certificate are numbered from 1 through 23.

9. Item 2: "Usual Residence of Mother"

c. City, town, or location"

d.Street Address

e. My point is this: If the information in the above items on Obama's long form birth certificate does not match the information that is found in the newspaper listing of Obama's birth that the pro-Obama camp brags about, then Obama has some serious explaining to do.

10. Father:

11. Item 8. Color or Race

Problem: If the Race listed is different from the COLB birth certificate that the Obama camp displayed on Obama's fight the smears site during the campaign---"African" was listed---then Obama and Hawaii officials have a lot of very serious explaining to do.

12. Mother: Item "Mother's Mailing Address"

13. If mother's mailing address is different from the address listed in the newspaper list of births, then, again, Obama and Hawaii officials have some explaining to do.

14. Information about doctor:

a. Item 18a. Signature

b. Item 18b. Attendant at birth: md do midwife other(specify)

c. Item 18c. Address

d. Item 18d: Date signed

e. The items about the doctor are very importnt, because if no such doctor exists, then Obama and his camp have some serious explaining to do.

15. Item 20: Registrar's signed signature

16. Item 21: Date on which given name added

17. In summary, I say this: If Obama has no reasonable explanation as to why item details on his long form birth certificate are different from what we have been led to believe during the presidential campaign---for instance, he has no explanation as to why the race of his father is different on the long form birth certificate than it is on the COLB short form birth certificate that appeared on his official fight the smears site----then Obama is in a lot of very serious political and maybe even criminal trouble.

NOTE: I tried to post a copy of a blank 1961 Hawaii birth certificate from the site at the beginning of this message, but I couldn't do it, because it is in pdf format.

If anyone out there can post a copy of the 1961 Hawaii blank birth certificate using the site at the beginning of this message, I would appreciate it.

[patriot08]

Dr. Orly’s website and PayPal

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/

Dr. Orly has added renouned attorney, Stephen Pidgeon as her assistant:
http://stephenpidgeon.com/
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2816

[a fool in paradise]

It also serves as a diversionary tactic as people look and look and look to try to uncover it.

[CaliforniaCon]

For me, it’s no longer even about where the guy was born.

Re: “The question now is: what the heck is he hiding?

It would be so simple to authorize the state of Hawaii to release a certified copy of his original long-form birth certificate and put a quick stop to the furor.

But there is no B.C., there are no college records, there is no official paper trail telling us anything about this man. There’s a reason for it, and it ain’t good.”

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Agree — this goes far beyond the BC or lack thereof. Everything about this guy is muddled or hidden — I’d love to see various school records, etc. Where IS the data on this dangerous character? In Soros’ basement?

[a fool in paradise]

He’s claimed two different hospitals as his place of birth.

[utahagen]

It is smart of Obama’s team to imply “the birthers” are nutty conspiracy theorists, but the simple truth is that Obama is choosing not to release his birth certificate, which is what would make this all go away. My bet is that Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii, but that there is something on his birth certificate he doesn't want the world to see. (Another bet I would make is that what Obama is hiding is that his birth certificate either listed him as “Negro”, which would now offend some people, or “White”, which was a lie.)

[McGruff]

I think it was the soldier who refused orders because zero is not a citizen.

Major Cook had a lot to do with this. The fact that the Obama administration wiggled out of this confrontation on a technicality rather than bring closure to this whole saga just adds more fuel to the fire of suspicion. Who will continue the fight Major Cook started?

[Signalman]

OK, question. Let’s hypothetically say that Obie was born in Kenya. Now since his mother was an American citizen (as far as we know) would that, alone, make him a “natural born citizen” as defined by the Constitution? Or would he, in order to gain US citizenship, have had to go through the naturalization process.

[libstripper]

I don't know if it was the fact they wouldn't go to trial with the reservist

Refusing to go to trial with Major Cook and mooting the case was really shocking. Another Freeper posted the statutory definition of conscientious objector, which basically requires a person to object to war on general moral grounds, something Major Cook definitely didn't do. Thus, DOD would have had a strong case litigating directly against Major Cook and a good chance to prevail on a motion for summary judgment. Nevertheless, to avoid even the possibility of having to reveal the Illegal Alien's "Certificate of Live Birth" they mooted the case by revoking his orders. By so doing they ran the strong risk of having thousands of other service people who might want out of deployment orders file the same kind of case. The only reason for the government to take such a terrible, unpatriotic risk with the good order of the service is sure, guilty knowledge that the Illegal Alien is an illegal alien.

[toast]

What is everyone else’s feeling?

My feeling is that Obama fits the general description of natural born citizen.
His mother was American.
He was raised by his mother and grandmother.
His father was generally absent.
He did have some of his schooling overseas, but many Americans do.

I do believe the B.C. that was posted on his website was a fake. I believe faking a basic document such as a birth certificate should exclude you from becoming President of the United States.

[Jedidah]

Not really, because these questions have been around since last summer and have gained no traction until just recently as 0’s glow has begun to fade. It hasn’t diverted his political opponents one bit, because, for the most part, they’ve simply ignored the subject.

That’s why it’s notible that Rush even mentioned the issue today.

Up until now, most who have asked questions about 0’s background have been labeled either kooks or racists.

(And then, thinking back, there’s the case of those contract workers who were fired for looking at 0’s passport files way back in the early days of the campaign. My tin-foil hat wonders what records they scrubbed.)

[BornToBeAmerican]

I doubt it, considering that he was born in Kenya to a natural born Kenyan father.

American Citizenship? DENIED!!!

[Godebert]

"My feeling is that Obama fits the general description of natural born citizen."

Go here to educate yourself on the meaning of Natural-Born Citizen.

http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html

[fanfan]

Yep.

[real_patriotic_american]

Rush was describing how he was going through a tax audit from New York. He then gave Obama a good rip saying- “Obama hasn’t even proven he’s a citizen.”

[nufsed]

My feeling is anger that he is wasting so much time and money.

My logic is that he is exhibiting guilty behavior. You don't hide something unless you have something to hide.