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Holder: Whites and Ministers will not be protected by proposed hate crimes legislation.
Muffled Oar ^ | June 30, 2009 | Isaac Muzzey

Posted on 07/02/2009 7:43:35 AM PDT by mudblood

Holder: Whites and Ministers will not be protected by proposed hate crimes legislation. Attorney General Eric Holder testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee on June 25 and gave startling testimony that means Christian ministers and whites will not be protected under the hate crimes statute proposed by the Department of Justice. Holder says that the proposed statute would only protect “traditional” victims of hate crimes, and then he goes on to name a series of Democratic Party constituencies.

You can either launch the video here or click the webstream link here to see his testimony for yourself.

Senator Sessions asks Holder about the scope of the protected classes. (Beginning at 58:43 – running through 60:09) Sessions presents a hypothetical where a minister gives a sermon, quotes the Bible about homosexuality and is thereafter attacked by a gay activist because of what the minister said about his religious beliefs and what scripture says about homosexuality.

Holder: “Well the statute would not necessarily cover that. On the other hand, I think the concern that actually has been expressed is if the action was reversed. . . . We are talking about, if in fact the person, we are talking about crimes that have a historic basis. Groups who have been targeted for violence as a result of their skin color, sexual orientation, that is what this legislation is designed to cover. The fact that someone might strike somebody as a result of pure speech, again, . . . we don’t have the indication that somebody was motivated to strike at somebody because they were in one of these protected classes. That would not be covered by the statute.”

Later, Senator Tom Coburn asks Holder if the muslim radical who killed army recruiter Pvt. Long committed a hate crime. Holder’s equivocation was disturbing. “There is a certain element of hate in that, I suppose.” He would suppose. You can see him “suppose” at minute 73:00.

Then Holder goes on to list the only groups intended to be protected by the proposed law. This is racial identity politics taking a sinister turn. Holder explicitly says the proposed law only protects classes “where there is a history” of violence against those groups. “What we are looking for here in terms of expansion of the statute are instances where there is a historic basis. See, groups of people who are singled out for violence perpetrated against them because of who they are. I don’t know if we have the same historical record to say members of our military have been targeted in the same way that people who are African American, people who are Jewish, people who are gay, have been targeted over the many years.” (minute 73:00-74:00)

Based on Holder’s testimony, it is clear that the law would not protect white victims who were attacked because of their race by racial minorities. Holder’s testimony explicitly excluded prosecution of the gay activist who attacks a Christian minister or priest because of his sermon on homosexuality, but the legislation protects the gay activist when he is attacked. This is a dangerous development to our laws and our nation. One of the most fundamental principles in the founding of this nation was that all are created equal. A bloody Civil War was fought to sustain it. No group enjoys privileged status over the other. Once the Department can decide to protect certain individuals for crimes, and not others, those not protected will lose faith in the system. Loss of faith in the system is more than a simple inconvenience. Confidence that laws are enforced fairly and equally preserves peace and prosperity. Lawlessness ensues when the law is perceived as a weapon against certain groups for the benefit of other groups. It is not enough to simply point to a bundle of statistics or history, or to Matthew Sheppard, to justify unfairness in the law.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: crime; cw2; doj; hate; obama
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To: mudblood

Yes, and Atty. Gen. Holder damn well knows it. This move is just more meat for the trial lawyers and race baiters like Sharpton, Jackson and well, Obama.


61 posted on 07/02/2009 10:22:16 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: mudblood
I approve of his views, because it only serves to

A) Wake up the heretofore apolitical, ignorant and apathetic masses, and

B) Hastens the onset of the inevitable coming massive civil unrest.

The crazier these people talk, the more America cleans their guns.

62 posted on 07/02/2009 10:37:25 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today: BLOAT)
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To: mudblood

Not only does the violate the 1st Amendment (free exercise of religion), but it violates the 14th - Equal Protection clause!


63 posted on 07/02/2009 11:10:55 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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To: mudblood

Rush is talking about this right now.


64 posted on 07/02/2009 11:29:13 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: mudblood

And this is why I enjoy spending quality time at the gun range.
I have no intention of being a “victim” of any crime..


65 posted on 07/02/2009 12:52:58 PM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: Arrowhead1952

Heya do you know what Rush said about this? How long he spent on it? Anything you have, even stuff from snerdly, much appreciated!


66 posted on 07/02/2009 1:06:23 PM PDT by mudblood
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To: mudblood

67 posted on 07/02/2009 1:11:01 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: mudblood

Of course, we know there has never been a tradition of violence against Christians. Just ask anyone who knows the history of Rome, or Islam, or the French Revolution.


68 posted on 07/02/2009 1:15:02 PM PDT by Poe White Trash
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To: mudblood

I don’t know how long he spent on it. That was right before a news break and I left the office right after I posted that. I was out for about ten minutes and he was on something else by the time I got back.


69 posted on 07/02/2009 1:20:51 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Cool, thank you. Anyone else who knows what Rush said about this on his show will have my gratitude :)


70 posted on 07/02/2009 1:29:37 PM PDT by mudblood
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To: The Toll
What would it take to prove a historical pattern of violence against white folks?

Remind him that his boss' grandfather was imprisoned in Kenya for spying for the Mau Mau. The Mau Mau took blood oaths to kill "white people."

Over there, "white people" were in the minority. Didn't matter. They received no "special rights" -- just a machete to the throat area.

71 posted on 07/02/2009 5:09:16 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: AuntB

Thank you for bringing the FACTS to light. Whites are the victims of hate crimes every day. Your evidence proves it—five fold.


72 posted on 07/02/2009 8:15:00 PM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: mudblood

This one supposedly up for vote in Senate on Wed. July 15th. Melt the phone lines! E-mail and Fax your Senators!! You can bet those who want this travesty passed will be doing just that!!


73 posted on 07/10/2009 8:51:39 PM PDT by JLLH
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