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James von Brunn, Evolutionist (The Holocaust museum killer in his own words)
Beliefnet ^ | 6/12/2009 | David Klinghoffer

Posted on 06/12/2009 7:05:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Now isn't this fascinating. James von Brunn, the white-supremacist suspect in today's Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting in which the guard who was shot has now tragically died, describes the relevance of evolution to his sick thinking. He's obsessed with "genetics." He writes in his manifesto (emphasis added):

Approval of inter-racial breeding is predicated on idiotic Christian dogma that God's children must love their enemies (a concept JEWS totally reject); and on LIBERAL/MARXIST/JEW propaganda that all men/races are created equal. These genocidal ideologies, preached from the American pulpits, taught in American schools, legislated in the halls of Congress (confirming TALMUDIC conviction that goyim are stupid sheep), are expected to produce a single, superintelligent, beautiful, non-White "American" population. Eliminating forever racism, inequality, bigotry and war. As with ALL LIBERAL ideologies, miscegenation is totally inconsistent with Natural Law: the species are improved through in-breeding, natural selection and mutation. Only the strong survive. Cross-breeding Whites with species lower on the evolutionary scale diminishes the White gene-pool while increasing the number of physiologically, psychologically and behaviorally deprived mongrels. Throughout history improvident Whites have miscegenated. The "brotherhood" concept is not new (as LIBERALS pretend) nor are the results -- which are inevitably disastrous for the White Race -- evident today, for example, in the botched populations of Cuba, Mexico, Egypt, India, and the inner cities of contemporary America.

This wacko despises Christianity, too, though not quite as much as he does Judaism. Like Hitler in Mein Kampf, he draws lessons from his interpretation of Darwinism. He's very big on dangers to the Aryan "gene pool." The subtitle of his book promies: "A New Hard-Hitting Exposé Of The JEW CONSPIRACY To Destroy The White Gene-Pool."

Other thoughts in this pseudo-scientific vein:

Our Founding Fathers were Aryans, men of good breeding who understood, empirically, the great differences existing between strains of horses; strains of live-stock; races of men; and between individuals: knowledge confirmed today by the natural sciences of Genetics, Eugenics, and Anthropology. Hitler, as American boobs are beginning to learn, was not all wrong.

Also this:

[T]o the astonishment of the world, Chancellor Adolph Hitler, who emphasized genetics and the homogeneity of the Aryan race, led Germany to an amazing spiritual and economic recovery.

No, he doesn't cite Darwin by name in the part of his book that's readable online -- the first 6 of 12 chapters. But do you get the general drift? And you want to tell me that ideas don't have consequences?


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: evolutionist; holocaust; jamesvonbrunn
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To: SeekAndFind

Hell no..


21 posted on 06/12/2009 7:41:25 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: SeekAndFind
YES. JUST QUESTIONS AND CONCLUSIONS DERIVED FROM ANSWERS.

Tell it to someone who believes you. I don't.

22 posted on 06/12/2009 7:41:46 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t care what Darwin says. Attempting to pin some nutjob’s attack on evolution is absolutely NO DIFFERENT than the clowns on the left who try to pin it on Christianity.

In fact too many creationists and evolutionist behave exactly alike and both lose credibility when they say stupid crap.


23 posted on 06/12/2009 7:42:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: dirtboy
Yeah, sure, it's all innocent on your part, no effort to impugn evolutionists by associating them with a racist killer.

LOL - Evols hardly need to be associated with a racist killer to be impugned.

24 posted on 06/12/2009 7:42:03 AM PDT by jla
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To: SeekAndFind
Well all the evidence points to natural selection of genetic variation being the reason for...

dark skin/light skin
lactose intolerance/ lactose persistence
kinky hair/ flat hair
wide noses/ narrow noses
etc
..... differences between human populations.

Which in ABSOLUTELY NO WAY implies that one race is “better” than any other, just different DNA to fit difference circumstances.

25 posted on 06/12/2009 7:42:26 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: SeekAndFind

The frantic coverage of Von Brunn’s act in DC has almost fallen off the radar.

There can only be one reason that it has. The Government controlled media has found evidence that this man was a looney leftist.

Could be Jeremiah Wright that set him off by mentioning “those Jews” won’t let him get near Obama.

Who knows?


26 posted on 06/12/2009 7:44:01 AM PDT by dforest (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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To: dirtboy
only those who believe in God will survive or prosper.

I think that is what a lot of Christians believe. In the long run, Jesus is the only way and there is no other name by which a person can be saved. That is why there is this effort to evangelize.

I ask a lot of Christians this question and a lot of them do not apologize for this belief. At least they are CONSISTENT with what their Bible tells them.

Now, what about those who believe that we are nothing but products of random mutation plus natural selection? Isn't the logical conclusion this --- we are the chance products of nature and what a person does is NATURE impelling him to act.
27 posted on 06/12/2009 7:45:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: jla
LOL - Evols hardly need to be associated with a racist killer to be impugned.

Nice company you keep - sliming entire groups of people. A popular tactic of the left as well.

28 posted on 06/12/2009 7:46:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: allmendream
Which in ABSOLUTELY NO WAY implies that one race is “better” than any other, just different DNA to fit difference circumstances.

If natural selection plus random mutation is working, then there is STRONGER and WEAKER. Now the question then is begged --- isn't STRONGER "better" than WEAKER ?
29 posted on 06/12/2009 7:47:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: dirtboy

Thank you!


30 posted on 06/12/2009 7:51:15 AM PDT by jla
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To: indylindy
The frantic coverage of Von Brunn’s act in DC has almost fallen off the radar.

There can only be one reason that it has. The Government controlled media has found evidence that this man was a looney leftist.

That's wishful thinking on your part, since he repeatedly inveighs against "liberalism" in his manifesto

31 posted on 06/12/2009 7:52:47 AM PDT by Two Ravens
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To: dirtboy
Tell it to someone who believes you. I don't.

You don't have to. I could care less.
32 posted on 06/12/2009 7:53:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Natural selection and mutation IS working. Saying that an individual within a population is either ‘more fit’ or ‘less fit’ (sometimes being physically weaker, but more starvation resistant would be ‘more fit’; so I reject your use of the terms ‘stronger’ and ‘weaker’ in lieu of ‘more fit’ and ‘less fit’) is a LONG WAY AWAY from saying the traits of one population is somehow better than the traits of a different population.

If having dark skin in Norway was favored, then Norwegians would have dark skin. But living in Norway, dark skin is NOT favored; you would get rickets from lack of vitamin D synthesis (which needs sunlight on your skin).

Thus ‘more fit’ and ‘less fit’ are ENTIRELY conditional depending upon the environment. One cannot make a judgment as to overall superiority based upon a population change in DNA to fit local conditions.

33 posted on 06/12/2009 7:55:23 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: SeekAndFind
Isn't the logical conclusion this ---

No.. that is the kindergarten level of understanding of evolution.. if you believe in Theistic evolution like I do, you understand that God did create that has both a spiritual aspect and a physical aspect, the physical side works under the laws of nature and results only in our physical development, but the spiritual side, what sets man apart from animals, transcends that. Even many atheists who believe in evolution don't see this as we are just prone to do what is nature compels them to, instead, they do see a moral code in systems and acts that work best for the survival of individuals and societies.. the 'moral codes' they see as almost laws of nature the way we see them as spiritual laws.

34 posted on 06/12/2009 7:57:18 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: dirtboy

I could support the creationists when they only wanted equal time with evolutionary theory in school. Now that they’re hell bent on its destruction they can rant without my support.

When they became their own enemy they went too far.


35 posted on 06/12/2009 7:57:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Two Ravens
he repeatedly inveighs against "liberalism" in his manifesto

The problem with the terms -- LIBERAL and CONSERVATIVE as I see it is the terms have been so hijacked by the media that the original meaning of those words have been rendered malleable and for all purposes, almost meaningless.

They for instance, call people like the Dutch politician, Geert Wilders a conservative or the recently assassinated Pym Fortuin a conservative when a look at their policies show that they share SOME philosophies with true conservatives but in most others, are in fact LIBERAL.

Most of the media for instance tell us that "conservatives" recently won elections in most of Europe. Are they really conservatives in the sense that they are for limited government? Nope. The term has all but lost its meaning.
36 posted on 06/12/2009 7:59:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: mnehring
if you believe in Theistic evolution like I do, you understand that God did create that has both a spiritual aspect and a physical aspect,

You believe in Intelligent Design then. If God exists, then He is by definition the intelligent cause of everything, hence, the intelligent designer.

Do you also believe that man is randomly mutated? (emphasis on the word -- RANDOM).
37 posted on 06/12/2009 8:01:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: cripplecreek

Ditto that.. I am all for a study of all sorts of origin theories as long as they are put in the proper historical, philosophical, and scientific contexts. One cant deny they are part of the history of science and we can see how those thoughts evolved.


38 posted on 06/12/2009 8:01:08 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
Even many atheists who believe in evolution don't see this as we are just prone to do what is nature compels them to, instead, they do see a moral code in systems and acts that work best for the survival of individuals and societies

I am not following this logic. If there is no supreme being who tells us that certain things like what this guy did in the museum are RIGHT or WRONG ( i.e. the atheistic belief is objectively true), I don't see how an objective "moral code" exists. Unless you believe that MORALITY is also part of evolution.
39 posted on 06/12/2009 8:03:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Two Ravens

I didn’t say liberalism. I said he is a leftist.

By the way, Welcome to FR.


40 posted on 06/12/2009 8:05:34 AM PDT by dforest (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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