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Religion NOT Responsible for Abortion Doctor's Murder
Examiner ^ | 6-1-09 | Scott Martin

Posted on 06/01/2009 1:11:21 PM PDT by Scott Martin

You've probably already noted that the pro-abortion crowd is making political hay blaming anti-abortion groups for the actions of the lone, nutcase-anarchist who killed Tiller.

Talking Points Memo is known as a top-shelf liberal blog (liberalism at the top lefty blogs is so complete that it extends to taking liberties even with spelling). The doctor's body had barely hit the ground before Talking Points made the usual idiotic case that you, if you believe abortion is murder and have the temerity to speak about your belief, are responsible for Tiller's death.

" No one is fooled Reverend... The time for your dishonet (sic) distancing of yoursevles (sic) from the logical outcome of all your rhetoric is over. Ultimately, you are guilty of this crime and need to take responsibility for the murder you have caused to be committed in your names and in the name of Jesus. Confess and repent before you kill another innocent man or woman and disgrace yourselves any further..."

Here we see one of the more blatant problems with liberalism, the idea that the insane machinations and actions of a raving lunatic represent "the logical outcome of all your rhetoric." I'm not quite sure how an ideology that believes that man can be made perfect fits with the idea that lunatic acts are the logical end result of preaching opposition to government policy. But only this particular policy. Perhaps you have to believe that man is only perfectible outside of God to get it. Or perhaps you have to be a nitwit.

The murder of anyone is sad. Loss of life, even when justified - which this was not - is not a happy occasion. Unless you happen to have your Talking Points Memo ready and waiting for the occasion...

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TOPICS: Government; Reference; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; christianity; ideology; religion

1 posted on 06/01/2009 1:11:22 PM PDT by Scott Martin
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To: Scott Martin
What's good for the Muslim is good for the Christian

Anti-abortion Terror: The liberal solution

2 posted on 06/01/2009 1:16:20 PM PDT by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: Scott Martin
Interesting. So now people are going to be held accountable to things their preacher said.

That's different.

3 posted on 06/01/2009 1:18:07 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Scott Martin
It's not religion???

A man is gunned down while attending a service in a church....where he attended regularly....and his occupation was known to all.

And that's not religion based?

The statement would have more credibility if the man had been gunned down while sitting on a bus bench in the middle of town and the shooter(s) were kids hopped up on drugs and alcohol driving a stolen car and shooting just for kicks.

4 posted on 06/01/2009 1:20:29 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back, then tell me it's rainin'.)
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To: 5thGenTexan

What is actually somewhat responsible for this, is the fact that the Supreme Court prevented this issue from being decided in the states. Were states’ rights followed, people who care intensely enough about this issue could choose to live in states where the issue had been decided by the people.


5 posted on 06/01/2009 1:21:58 PM PDT by Scott Martin
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To: Scott Martin
True. I was just inferring that if the media had held a certain candidate to this same standard, we may have a different President right now.
6 posted on 06/01/2009 1:24:10 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Logic n' Reason

What you’re describing is more opportunity than motive...


7 posted on 06/01/2009 1:26:08 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Logic n' Reason

A person not acting on the principles of his religion, which in no way allows a person to bring another to justice without the use of law, is not a religion-motivated killing. It is the act of a maniac.


8 posted on 06/01/2009 1:29:42 PM PDT by Scott Martin
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To: Logic n' Reason

It’s not religious based. Roeder had no known connections to any Pro-Life group. But he was known for A) being mentally ill and B) being a Black helicopter guy. His church affiliation never comes up.


9 posted on 06/01/2009 1:30:29 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Scott Martin

It is important to remember that it is the pro-choice crowd that believes the taking of human life is a legitimate action to achieve one’s goal. It is the pro-life crowd that believes that is wrong.


10 posted on 06/01/2009 1:42:31 PM PDT by Pete
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To: massgopguy

They don’t need black helicopters. They have satellites which satisfy all their spying needs. ;)


11 posted on 06/01/2009 1:45:27 PM PDT by SandWMan (Even if you can't legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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To: Scott Martin

It was religious. Religion has been and still is a powerful impetus for some pretty sick crimes. To deny this is idiocy.

But religion is just like a gun in that it can be used to both save and destroy lives. The difference between good and bad is what is in the heart of the person using it, not the tool.


12 posted on 06/01/2009 1:46:51 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Scott Martin

Hmmm. So using the logic of the left, if liberals here talk about how murderous Israel is, they are then responsible when some crazed Muslim blows himself up in a market, or if Iran sends a nuke into the middle of Tel Aviv.


13 posted on 06/01/2009 2:08:50 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

No. You aren’t allowed to use their logic when discussing what they do. Duh - you should know their rules by now.

;)


14 posted on 06/01/2009 2:17:50 PM PDT by Scott Martin
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To: massgopguy
It’s not religious based. Roeder had no known connections to any Pro-Life group. But he was known for A) being mentally ill and B) being a Black helicopter guy. His church affiliation never comes up.

It is religion based.

He didn't need "connections" to a pro-life group. With prior intent, he went to a church where he knew he could find a specific doctor who he knew specialized in late term abortions.

He is suspected of being or may be mentally ill.

Being a "black helicopter" guy and going hunting in a church after a specific doctor don't go together.

He doesn't need a church affiliation for this to be religion based.

15 posted on 06/01/2009 2:29:50 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back, then tell me it's rainin'.)
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Roeder had no known connections to any Pro-Life group.

It looks like he may have been in contact with Cheryl Sullenger from Operation Rescue. Who knows what that is about. Story here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2262553/posts

That doesn't change the fact that at this time no one knows if there is a "religious" motivation for this killing. All we know is that the murder occurred within the grounds of a church. Like I said in an earlier comment, that speaks to opportunity only - not motive.

People can impute whatever motivation they feel like, but saying something doesn't make it true.

I guess no one remember Perry Mason anymore ;'}
16 posted on 06/01/2009 6:14:57 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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