Posted on 04/22/2009 11:54:23 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I don't know what to say: If the makers of this video weren't intentionally looking to portray almost every stereotype about homosexuals ...
I am very distressed at the tone of the debate on same-sex marriage. Look at how the leftists piled on Miss California, and displayed such scorn and hatred for her. Her crime is that she is against homosexual marriage as a social policy. When did it become a crime to respectfully express a view on an issue?
Miss California is going to college and hopes to become a teacher. She has done volunteer work with special needs children. She is an overall good person, making a positive contribution to society. Because of one alleged defect that the politically correct crowd can’t stand, apparently she must be destroyed.
Miss California has probably made more of a positive contribution to society than that Perez Hilton psuedonym(sp?) guy ever will. Yet he is some kind of hero to the left because of his alleged courage in supporting same-sex marriage.
How much courage does it take to support same-sex marriage for a celebrity wanna be hanger on like Perez Hilton?????
But again, why is the opposing point of view villified and attacked ad hominem? When by all accounts this is a girl who is doing some great things in her life and the lives of others, why must she be destroyed to score political points on the liberal issue of the day???????
Can you imagine what the reaction would have been if she had lashed out at him with gay name calling? Yet it’s ok for him to call her the B word, and say that he was really thinking the C word, and that’s all ok, because he supports the liberal cause of the day.
We live in an upside down world.
I would like to see respectful discussions about any issue, including marriage, pro and con, point/counter point. But the other side tends to demonize any opponents. So the respectful discussions don’t happen very often.
Why no protesting at the WH? Obama and Miss Californias views are the same, ver batem..........
This is a parody of the nom video
Err, not a parody, but a reply to it in a similar format.
I wonder the same thing. Most mainstream Democrat politicians who offer an opinion are against same-sex marriage. Obama specifically is against it, though he wants civil union type laws at the federal level.
Perhaps if you are liberal on other issues, you get a pass on the marriage issue?
I dunno. I do know that while I am 100 % against redefining marriage, I am 100% for the equal right for a couple of whatever statue to enter into a leagally binding agreement, or civil union. I have no problem with them having the same tax break, benefits, and what not that I do. I wish that marriage was not the term used by the secular world to define a 2 person commitment. I wish civil unions were the best any of us could get in the secular world, and that a marriage ceremony was ONLY bestowed by religous entities and the various rules would apply per their religious belief. This is silly. Drop the redefinition of marriage, redefine the agreement between the govt and a couple.
To the Left, there's no such thing as *respectful discussions*. It's their way or the highway.
What is the “NOM” video and do you have a link?
later view.
In other words you don’t care about the next generation. Nor about the lessons of history for those cultures which tolerate open homosexuality as an equal choice. All of them failed. To succeed as a culture it’s clear that we have to encourage all men to marry a woman and have children as in intact family unit.
The milquetoast, moderate, oh-so-tolerant ethos you have just espoused is death for a society. But why should you care, eh?
Live for today!
I left my comment.
“I am 100% for the equal right for a couple of whatever statue to enter into a leagally binding agreement, or civil union. I have no problem with them having the same tax break, benefits, and what not that I do.”
Maybe that is why you are so new on here. You are not really a conservative. This is supposed to be a gathering place for conservatives numbnuts.
I care very much for the next generation. And as a married woman of over 20 years with 3 boys, I can assure you that I despise homosexuality with every fiber of my being. I also will fight to the death a redefinition of the term marriage.
That said, we have two options either 1. Do away with ANY benefit to a union that not every person in this country cannot enjoy regardless of sexual orientation OR 2. Allow all couples the same protections under said laws.
I don’t care which way it goes mind you. If you want to do away with any benefit for coupling up, so be it, no marriage benefit in taxes, health care, life insurance etc. If all couples have those same rights under the law, I am good with it.
As to not caring about society, I am SURE that anyone who is not attracted to the same sex is going to run right out and become gay because they have those rights. Societies that allowed homosexuality were not the reason the societies fell, it was IMMORALITY that caused them to fall.
Homosexuality is a byproduct of immorality, and ageed, it sucks, however, discriminating is NOT going to lessen it any more than legalizing is going to make it more prevelant.
What I would actually like to see is 1. Every state in the nation NOT perform a marriage, ever. Then, no redefinition of marriage would be necessary. One would only be able to marry IN a church, as the sacrament it is. The states would then be able to define what was involved in a civil union, and do what each state felt was right.
As a republic, the rule of law is the law of the land, not the mobocracy. If marriage was removed from this, they can call it whatever they want.
And, before you swing your oh so tolerant ethos statements around, it might be wise to know who your swinging at. I have posted over 1650 times on here, I am a die hard conservative, catholic, and when I have an opinion that differs from others on here, I would appreciate the benefit of the doubt or an actual discussion not your holier than thou slap down because one might see things differently. But snarky bitch slaps seem to be the MO around here if you dare step you toe over the line. Sounds alot more like NO place for conservative discussion and more like DU every day.
The Byzantine Empire lost to Islam for that reason.
Whatever. See post 16
There are many marks of immorality, the common tolerance of public sexual acts or even public sexuality is a strong one. A combination of modesty and at the same time an appreciation for beauty are the marks of a mature, healthy and moral culture.
Legalizing immorality directly or indirectly does indeed encourage the feral, and make the immorality more wide-spread. When it is common for people to IDENTIFY themselves in public by their sexuality — that itself, is a sign of cultural depravity and immodesty. And it is good — a social necessity in a healthy society to disapprove of such public and obvious identity declarations. Say when Perez or Rosie identify themselves as “gay”.
A healthy and successful culture must discriminate. There is no need to embarrass the confused, but some social concepts in currency today are toxic and it would be helpful — and necessary — to make clear that a good person does not engage in them nor tolerate a close association with those become mired in them — and to avoid those who would celebrate or recommend those behaviors.
Single motherhood is a social affliction. We are beset by a huge rate of births out of wedlock — not just us, but much of the Western world. What is the cure?
To promote marriage, to protect marriage. Tolerating single-sex unions of any sort removes those two parties from the marriage pool, and thus reduces the next generation.
Tolerating public homosexuality is like tolerating auto body rust — rust grows and grows like something alive until the entire car turns into rust, and then the rust flakes off into dust — nothing is left.
You can’t be against homosexuality just a little bit. All or nothing. I don’t think anyone who wants to steal my children’s innocence should have any special “rights”. But hey, that is just me being conservative. I think you want the RHINO website down the road.
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