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Why Are We Arguing?

Posted on 04/20/2009 2:33:36 PM PDT by ronnyquest

I've noticed here and elsewhere that many people agree with one another and share nearly identical viewpoints, but state it slightly differently.

And they argue with one another. Have you noticed that? Person A states X and Person B states X again in slightly different words, call it Xa if you like, but now it's his idea and Person A is wrong. I'm not sure if that's worse or if it's worse when Person A argues that Person B is wrong.

I'm on a mailing list where this just occured and I thought it might be fun to share this observation.


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1 posted on 04/20/2009 2:33:36 PM PDT by ronnyquest
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To: ronnyquest
I thought it might be fun to share this observation

Nope ...

2 posted on 04/20/2009 2:36:24 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Clinton was our first black President ... Obama is our first French President.)
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To: ronnyquest

You’re wrong!

(Sorry, couldn’t resist)


3 posted on 04/20/2009 2:37:06 PM PDT by JennysCool (Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. -- Wyatt Earp)
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To: ronnyquest
Welcome to FR

Good job with the Suba

4 posted on 04/20/2009 2:37:49 PM PDT by tomkat (grow your ohms)
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To: ronnyquest
I've noticed here and elsewhere that many people agree with one another and share nearly identical viewpoints, but state it slightly differently.

No they don't.

5 posted on 04/20/2009 2:38:03 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ronnyquest

Who the eff are you, newbie?


6 posted on 04/20/2009 2:38:12 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: ronnyquest

“Honey, what’s on the TV?”

“Dust.”

-—And then the fight began...


7 posted on 04/20/2009 2:38:30 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: ronnyquest

Algebra sux.


8 posted on 04/20/2009 2:39:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: ronnyquest
I've noticed here and elsewhere that many people agree with one another and share nearly identical viewpoints, but state it slightly differently. And they argue with one another.

Wow are you mixed up. First I've never seen it here and elsewhere, but rather elsewhere and here. You are clearly 180 degrees out. Secondly, the points of view that you are referring to are more exactly the same than "identical", and what people state is more than slightly different, if only a tad more. So are you ready to concede your err yet?

Why don't you just join DU, if hold such views!

9 posted on 04/20/2009 2:39:37 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism kills your soul.)
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To: ronnyquest

You’re making me dizzy.


10 posted on 04/20/2009 2:40:18 PM PDT by EggsAckley ("There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply." W.C Fields)
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To: ronnyquest
Man: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.

(short pause)

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.

11 posted on 04/20/2009 2:40:31 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: ronnyquest

I disagree. I think that many people agree with one another and share nearly identical viewpoints, but state it slightly different.


12 posted on 04/20/2009 2:41:24 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Bitter FReeping, gun toting, bible clinging, family loving, Obama despising, Right Wing Extremist.)
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To: ronnyquest
I've noticed here and elsewhere that many people agree with one another and share nearly identical viewpoints, but state it slightly differently.

Strange, I've noticed that many people agree with each other but juxtapose a word or two creating a slight variance.

You nitwit.

13 posted on 04/20/2009 2:41:59 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: ctdonath2

Yes, it is.


14 posted on 04/20/2009 2:42:49 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ronnyquest
How to have an argument...
15 posted on 04/20/2009 2:43:49 PM PDT by domeika
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A man walks into an office.

Man: Good morning, I’d like to have an argument, please.

Receptionist: Certainly, sir. Have you been here before?

Man: No, this is my first time.

Receptionist: I see, well we’ll see who’s free at the moment.

Mr. Bakely’s free, but he’s a little bit concilliatory. No. Try Mr. Barnhart, room 12.

Man: Thank you.

He enters room 12.

Angry man: WHADDAYOU WANT?

Man: Well, Well, I was told outside that...

Angry man: DON’T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!

Man: What?

A: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE!

YOU VACUOUS STUFFY-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!

M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!

A: OH! Oh! I’m sorry! This is abuse!

M: Oh! Oh I see!

A: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.

M: Oh...Sorry...

A: Not at all!

A: (under his breath) stupid git.

The man goes into room 12A. Another man is sitting behind a desk.

Man: Is this the right room for an argument?

Other Man:(pause) I’ve told you once.

Man: No you haven’t!

Other Man: Yes I have.

M: When?

O: Just now.

M: No you didn’t!

O: Yes I did!

M: You didn’t!

O: I did!

M: You didn’t!

O: I’m telling you, I did!

M: You didn’t!

O: (breaking into the developing argument) Oh I’m sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?

M: Ah! (taking out his wallet and paying) Just the five minutes.

O: Just the five minutes. Thank you.

Anyway, I did.

M: You most certainly did not!

O: Now let’s get one thing perfectly clear: I most definitely told you!

M: Oh no you didn’t!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn’t!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn’t!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn’t!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn’t!

O: Oh yes I did! (very fast)

M: Oh no you didn’t!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN’T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN’T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN’T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh look, this isn’t an argument!

(pause)

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn’t!

(pause)

M: It’s just contradiction!

O: No it isn’t!

M: It IS!

O: It is NOT!

M: You just contradicted me!

O: No I didn’t!

M: You DID!

O: No no no!

M: You did just then!

O: Nonsense!

M: (exasperated) Oh, this is futile!!

(pause)

O: No it isn’t!

M: Yes it is!

(pause)

I came here for a good argument!

O: AH, no you didn’t, you came here for an *argument*!

M: An argument isn’t just contradiction.

O: Well! it CAN be!

M: No it can’t!

An argument is a connected series of statement intended to establish a proposition.

O: No it isn’t!

M: Yes it is! ‘tisn’t just contradiction.

O: Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contrary position!

M: Yes but it isn’t just saying “no it isn’t”.

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn’t!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn’t!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it ISN’T! Argument is an intellectual process.

Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

O: It is NOT!

M: It is!

O: Not at all!

M: It is!

>DING!< The Arguer hits a bell on his desk and stops.

O: Thank you, that’s it.

M: (stunned) What?

O: That’s it. Good morning.

M: But I was just getting interested!

O: I’m sorry, the five minutes is up.

M: That was never five minutes!!

O: I’m afraid it was.

M: (leading on) No it wasn’t.....

(pause)

O: (dirty look) I’m sorry, I’m not allowed to argue any more.

M: WHAT??

O: If you want me to go on arguing, you’ll have to pay for another five minutes.

M: But that was never five minutes just now!

(pause... the Other Man raises his eyebrows)

Oh Come on!

Oh this is...

This is ridiculous!

O: I told you...

I told you, I’m not allowed to argue unless you PAY!

M: Oh all right. (takes out his wallet and pays again.)

There you are.

O: Thank you.

M: (clears throat) Well...

O: Well WHAT?

M: That was never five minutes just now.

O: I told you, I’m not allowed to argue unless you’ve paid!

M: Well I just paid!

O: No you didn’t!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn’t!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn’t!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn’t!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn’t!

M: (unable to talk straight he’s so mad) I don’t want to argue about it!

O: Well I’m very sorry but you didn’t pay!

M: Ah HAH!! Well if I didn’t pay, why are you arguing???

Ah HAAAAAAHHH! Gotcha!

O: (pause) No you haven’t!

M: Yes I have!

If you’re arguing, I must have paid.

O: Not necessarily.

I *could* be arguing in my spare time.


16 posted on 04/20/2009 2:44:06 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: OB1kNOb

I think your argument doesn’t not go far enough.


17 posted on 04/20/2009 2:44:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: RandallFlagg


Whole lotta real life in that one . .

18 posted on 04/20/2009 2:48:33 PM PDT by tomkat (grow your ohms)
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To: ronnyquest

Haven’t seen this reply in awhile.

So here we go.....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we say in the Army, I’ll bet you couldn’t pour p!ss out of a boot with instructions printed on the heel.

You are a canker. A sore that won’t go away. I would rather kiss a trial lawyer than be seen with you. You’re a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you.

You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell? Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly. You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood.

May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You’re a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won’t have sex with you.

You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot. And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile, one-handed, slack-jawed, drooling, meatslapper. On a good day you’re a half-wit. You remind me of drool.

You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I’m sorry. I can’t go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me.

After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don’t have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh. The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn’t really say anything.

Your attempt at constructing a creative post was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us “normal” people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are “challenged” persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn’t have been “right”. Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

P.S.: You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, and generally Not Good.

Begone and never pollute our ether with your presence again!


19 posted on 04/20/2009 2:51:51 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: domeika

ACK! Seventeen seconds off!


20 posted on 04/20/2009 2:52:47 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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