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HR 875 The food police, criminalizing organic farming and the backyard gardener, and violation of th
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Posted on 03/26/2009 12:30:22 PM PDT by mainestategop

HR 875 The food police, criminalizing organic farming and the backyard gardener, and violation of the 10th amendment

This bill is sitting in committee and I am not sure when it is going to hit the floor.  One thing I do know is that very few of the Representatives have read it.  As usual they will vote on this based on what someone else is saying.  Urge your members to read the legislation and ask for opposition to this devastating legislation.  Devastating for everyday folks but great for factory farming ops like Monsanto, ADM, Sodexo and Tyson to name a few.

I have no doubt that this legislation was heavily influenced by lobbyists from huge food producers.  This legislation is so broad based that technically someone with a little backyard garden could get fined and have their property siezed.   It will effect anyone who produces food even if they do not sell but only consume it.  It will literally put all independent farmers and food producers out of business due to the huge amounts of money it will take to conform to factory farming methods.  If people choose to farm without industry standards such as chemical pesticides and fertilizers they will be subject to a vareity of harassment from this completely new agency that has never before existed.  That's right, a whole new government agency is being created just to police food, for our own protection of course.  

 DO NOT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, READ THIS LEGISLATION FOR YOURSELF.  The more people who read this legislation the more insight we are going to get and be able to share.  Post your observations and insights below.  Urge your members to read this legislation and to oppose the passage of this legislation.

Pay special attention to

Red flags I found and I am sure there are more...........

Didn't Stalin nationalize farming methods that enabled his administration to gain control over the food supply?  Didn't Stalin use the food to control the people?

Last word...... Legislate religion and enforce gag orders on ministers on what can and can't be said in the pulpit, instituting regulations forcing people to rely soley on the government, control the money and the food.  What is that called?  It is on the tip of my tongue..........

I haven't read any of the Senate's version of the bill as I have been poring thru the House's version.  Here is the link and I hope some of you can take a look and post your observations and insights below.  One thing I am pretty sure of is that very few if any Senator's have actually read the legislation and when it comes up for a vote they will more than likely take someone else's word on how they should vote.  The other thing I am pretty sure about is that the legislation was probably written by lobbyists and industry experts.

S 425  http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s425: 

Things you can do

  1. Contact your members at 202-224-3121 and ask them to oppose HR 875 and S 425.  While you are at it ask them if they personally have read the legislation and what their position is? If they have not read the legislation ask them to read it and politely let them know that just because other representitives are not reading the legislation and voting on it does not mean they can do the same.  
  2. Get in touch with local farmers and food producers by attending a local farmers market and asking them how business is.  
  3. Attend a local WAPF meeting, this is a good start to learning about what is going on in farming and local & state initiatives .  The website is http://www.westonaprice.org/localchapters/index.html
  4. Check out the Farmers Legal Defense Fund at http://www.ftcldf.org/index.html
  5. Find out who sits on your states agriculture and farming committee and contact them with your concerns.
  6. Continue to contact your elected officials and let them know your position on legislation and why.
  7. Get active at the local and state levels, this is the quickest way to initiate change.


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To: mainestategop

I’m going to plant tomatoes just for spite. If they arrest me I’ll throw tomatoes at the thugs hired to enforce an illegal law.


41 posted on 03/26/2009 1:26:35 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (mistrust congress)
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To: mainestategop

Went out to buy a few bags of 10-10-10 today. HOLY CRAP!
A 30lb bag costs almost 3X what a 40lb bag cost just last year, but you are just lucky to find it at all.
“Tractor Supply” has cleansed the phospate entirely to sell only 12-0-12. Sheeeze! If someone pulled up on a tractor they wouldn’t know what it was .


42 posted on 03/26/2009 1:32:00 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: paratrooper82; MrB

I think waiting for a trigger or trip-wire is a bad idea. We should fight the battle by our rules. I believe we should define the line in advance and warn everyone what will happen if it is crossed. That way all will know when it really is time to make the stand.


43 posted on 03/26/2009 1:33:23 PM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Thus always to tyrants.")
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To: BGHater

All any of these aholes talk about is the economy. Meanwhile our liberty and Constitution are being trounced daily and no one knows what is happening because no one informs them.


44 posted on 03/26/2009 1:37:03 PM PDT by dforest
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To: BubbaBasher; paratrooper82

Most people have two distinct lines -
you come for my kids or my guns, there will be shooting.

Folks need to network with trusted likeminded folks and talk about what they’re going to do “if”. Probably many already are doing this.

Meanwhile, the state level 10th amendment sovereignty resolutions are the way to go on the political front.

If the patriots make the “first strike”, the fedgov will “legitimately” put down the insurrection. I have no idea what the “first strike” would be, anyway.


45 posted on 03/26/2009 1:43:45 PM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: MrB
The landscape is fairly crackling with static electricity, just waiting for an incident to discharge.

I've been saying for a long time now, that there's no lack of spirit or resolve on the part of The People to fight this tyranny from Washington. All that's missing is the "spark".

At some point, the loons in charge are going to pull a boner that cannot be ignored or forgiven, and all hell will break loose.

In a perfect world, we'd have already marched on Washington in the millions, but we are an unbelievably civil people, not prone to violence or mayhem, until we're provoked beyond all sensibility.

My only hope is that we aren't more civil than the situation allows. The encroachment on our freedoms, and the loonies' near total lock on power is almost complete.

The leftists HAVE to know it, too.

They're not attempting to pass the GIVE Act for nothing.

48 posted on 03/26/2009 2:17:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies;

and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.


49 posted on 03/26/2009 2:21:15 PM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: mainestategop
"UPRISING"

When The People finally snap, it will be a storm that no one on the left could have predicted. The fury and righteous anger unleashed will shock the world, and go down in the history books.

50 posted on 03/26/2009 2:21:36 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Kind of reminds me of the bill to safeguard against lead in toys. Unfortunately what was really written affected books, clothing, and other items for children which has impacted many in the industries. What did the man say about words? Just words? All those nuances can have devastating effects.


51 posted on 03/26/2009 2:25:52 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: TexasRepublic

There ain’t nothin pure about any of them.


52 posted on 03/26/2009 2:26:07 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: ChicagahAl
"No, it's Mercantilism. It's not capitalism. The small farmer or gardener, who might sell a few food items, is the Capitalist."

Chesterton said it best when he wrote:

"Too much capitalism does not mean too many capitalists, but too few capitalists."

53 posted on 03/26/2009 2:27:24 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: MrB
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Thank you for posting that, MrB. I've posted the same excerpt on this forum many times to get my point across.

Can you imagine the effect that another Ruby Ridge, or a Waco would have on the country right now? You can bet your life that the goons in charge completely understand this, and are doing everything in their power not to step over that line at the present moment.

At least half the country is like a boiler pressurized to the point of bursting.

54 posted on 03/26/2009 2:27:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: P8riot

Yeah, but the only problem is you need to dig six feet deep in order to effectively “redistribute the mineral wealth”.

A.A.C.


55 posted on 03/26/2009 2:38:21 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Windflier

They had better do everything possible to avoid a “Concord Bridge” incident.

They’d best just work with the state legislatures in good faith.


56 posted on 03/26/2009 2:55:15 PM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

ditto’s


57 posted on 03/26/2009 3:12:21 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: Larousse2

ping


58 posted on 03/26/2009 4:58:21 PM PDT by Munz ( “We’re all here for you OK? It’s a circle of love.” Rham Emanuel (You will be the pivot man))
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To: little jeremiah

Insanity!


59 posted on 03/26/2009 5:25:02 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

I’ve been reading discussions about this on another forum and no one can seem to definitvely state that this does NOT apply to home gardens or small farms. The only thing I can think of is Stalin’s kicking the kulaks off of their farms in Ukraine and starving millions of people to death.


60 posted on 03/26/2009 6:13:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gama Tamasi Ma Jyotir Gama)
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