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Obama’s National Security Force: The Seeds are Planted
The Gadfly ^ | The Gadfly

Posted on 03/19/2009 9:13:39 PM PDT by The Conservative Yogini

There is no higher religion than human service. To work for the common good is the greatest creed. – Woodrow Wilson (and his worship of the STATE)

Way back when, during the campaign, Obama made the declaration that America needs a national civilian security force, that is “just as strong and just as well funded as the military.“

Well, folks, here it comes.

The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act -- sponsored by Reps. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y, and George Miller, D-Calif. -- was approved by a 321-105 vote and now goes to the Senate.

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TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 111th; 13thamendment; agenda; bho2009; bho44; civilian; congress; democrats; education; fascism; first100days; give; giveact; obama; obamayouth; oshirts; serve; service; socialism; unconstitutional; volunteer; volunteerism
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Brownshirts, blackshirts, or Redshirts? Homeland Security is the Brownshirts, with maybe TSA as the blackshirts. Since this is Obama inspired socialist activism, I guess that would make them the Red Shirts. The color kinda fits on those Commie B*****ds.
21 posted on 03/19/2009 10:17:39 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

I skimmed thru the bill. There is a provision for Mentoring. What if the Pubbies were smart enough to make this mean that kids could be mentored by successful business people to learn what it takes to be successful in a Capitalist society. Might short circuit a lot of this Socialism.


22 posted on 03/19/2009 10:24:44 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: The Conservative Yogini

I wouldn’t have kids in this country, and if I did, I’d move them to another country and raise them there.


23 posted on 03/19/2009 10:27:42 PM PDT by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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To: Drammach

A rose by any other name... still has thorns.


24 posted on 03/19/2009 10:28:24 PM PDT by waiyu (Palin / Gohmert NOW!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

[The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act]

What a riot, especially with Repubs voting in favor. There is a website called http://www.nationalciviliansecurityforce.com


25 posted on 03/19/2009 10:31:40 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: The Conservative Yogini
6. Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic and educational backgrounds.

Are you freaking KIDDING me???

How is forced work for the state VOLUNTEERING??? I will leave the country before giving my children up to such "service."

26 posted on 03/19/2009 10:35:58 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: nathanbedford

I am glad you get it. We definitely need some kind of hook to get the public against this bill.


27 posted on 03/19/2009 10:38:32 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: The Conservative Yogini
I didn't have time to read the whole thing. Will the mark be on their forehead or hand?
28 posted on 03/19/2009 10:44:21 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: OneWingedShark

“Do these people have ANY idea what they’re saying?”

No. Most Dem members of Congress - especially the Representatives - are barely literate and hardly able to complete a sentence or express a coherent thought.


29 posted on 03/19/2009 10:47:14 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Yaelle
Just a random thought, but mothers might just be the demographic which reacts to having their children taken from them. I know it sounds silly that the mothers would object acts an age when her child normally goes off to military or to college anyway, but this represents a rupture of the bond to no advancement for the child. It throws children into the hands of nameless faceless apparatchiks for no well-known or broadly accepted purpose. It exposes the children not just to psychological and political indoctrination, it also exposes them to an atmosphere of community sex.

The mothers must know that the teenager who goes off to these indoctrination centers will come back an individual who likely will be something other than her child. She must fear that she will never be able to redeem them.


30 posted on 03/19/2009 10:49:36 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: The Conservative Yogini
The Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act, known as the GIVE Act -- sponsored by Reps. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y, and George Miller, D-Calif. -- was approved by a 321-105 vote and now goes to the Senate.

What a pathetic example of the name fitting an earlier-conceived acronym.

31 posted on 03/19/2009 11:14:09 PM PDT by torchthemummy (If You Still Have A TV Subscription You Are Funding The Socialist Takeover!)
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To: nathanbedford

Universities are bad enough. Yes, we need to worry the parents. This is pure indoctrination. I can almost see Obama thinking, “So they mocked my ‘community organizing,’ did they?? Well, pretty soon the whole country will be doing it!”

Already there is “mandatory” volunteering or community service in order to graduate from high school, and you would be amazed at the lazy and not altruistic ways the kids fulfill that.

You cannot FORCE people to “give.” That is called “take.”


32 posted on 03/20/2009 12:00:21 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

‘A National Service bill could contain numerous caveats in the fine print to coerce the public to obey.’

“We’ll reach this goal in several ways. At the middle and high school level, we’ll make federal assistance conditional on school districts developing service programs, and give schools resources to offer new service opportunities.”

“Schools that require service as part of the educational experience create improved learning environments and serve as resources for their communities.” Moreover, in his Plan, he promises to “develop national guidelines for service-learning and community service programs,” thus not leaving the content of service programs to the states.

The Volokh Conspiracy’s Jim Lindgren: “it would be the public schools that would impose federal standards of coerced service on each child as part of their requirements for graduation. For students, service would be involuntary. Even for the public schools, their participation would be only nominally voluntary – for how many public schools can survive without federal assistance?”


33 posted on 03/20/2009 12:05:51 AM PDT by anglian
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To: ETL

Source: FinalCall.com
(note: this is Farrakhan’s own “Nation Of Islam” website. However, the original page has ‘mysteriously’ been removed and it exists only in this linked cache form, thus the looong url -etl):
http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=%22We+need+a+Ministry+of+Defense.+Our+young+men+are+born+soldiers%2C+but+they+are+in+the+wrong+war.%22%22mao%22&fr=moz2&u=www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_4328.shtml&w=%22we+need+a+ministry+of+defense+our+young+men+are+born+soldiers+but+they+are+in+the+wrong+war%22+mao&d=A4xrG52uSSxU&icp=1&.intl=us
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It sounds like he’s calling for a war, black against whites. He better be careful what he asks for. Do the math mf’er.


34 posted on 03/20/2009 12:12:29 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: nathanbedford

When his programs begin to stall as eventually they must, look for Obama to really play the fear card.
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Watch for the puppy the his kids have been asking to have for years. He’s waiting until he really needs a distraction. When the dog arrives, pay close attention to what is going in behind the scenes.


35 posted on 03/20/2009 12:15:38 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: bioqubit

WILL YOU PEOPLE PLEASE GET IT RIGHT!

WE HAVE TO SCREAM SCREAM SCREAM AT THE SENATE. EMAILS TO FOLLOW....

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THANK YOU!!! I am amazed and the joking here and the fact that so many seem resigned that it will happen. I am so close to just moving, permanently and never coming back.


36 posted on 03/20/2009 12:17:10 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: FastCoyote

http://www.nationalciviliansecurityforce.com/


37 posted on 03/20/2009 12:21:32 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Yaelle

We definitely need some kind of hook to get the public against this bill.
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NOW!! We have no time to waste.


38 posted on 03/20/2009 12:22:19 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: mojitojoe

Well, can we at least give the ‘volunteers’ a catchy name?
Like “Hitler Youth”
Or “Young Communists”
Or “Dear Leader’s Youth Brigades”


39 posted on 03/20/2009 12:24:51 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Mainstream Media cheered: Ascension of Castro, Chavez and now Obama.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That any House Repubs voted yes, is highly disturbing.
What did they get promised by Obama?
Pack of smokes and a bottle of wino’s delight?
You know, what the typical Dem voter sells his vote for..


40 posted on 03/20/2009 12:26:40 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Mainstream Media cheered: Ascension of Castro, Chavez and now Obama.)
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