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DOD Ends Sale of Expended Military Brass to Remanufacturers
The Shootist ^ | 3/15/2009 | Gordon Hutchinson

Posted on 03/15/2009 2:54:48 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$

We all wondered when it was going to start. When the new administration would make their move against us as gun owners. Oh, everyone got upset about HR45--I'll bet I got over 100 e-mails warning me about this draconian gun registration bill that had been introduced in Congress.

I was really glad to see Tom Gresham, host of "Gun Talk Radio," an editor, writer, television host on "Self-Defense TV," and one of the foremost gun spokespersons, come out and tell everyone to stop worrying about legislation so absolutely over-the-top--it would never get out of committee.

Tom said save your energy for when we really need it--don't expend it trying to warn everyone in your e-mail list about legislation that would go nowhere.

Now, Tom just interviewed me, and Larry Haynie, owner of Georgia Arms, on Gun Talk--and Tom agrees, now is the time to "...unleash the hounds..." by which he means start e-mailing and writing your senators and congressmen.

Now it has come clear...now we know what they intend to do.

It is an end-run around Congress. They don't need to try to ban guns--they don't need to fight a massive battle to attempt gun registration, or limit "assault" weapon sales.

Nope. All they have to do is limit the amount of ammunition available to the civilian market, and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless.

Think we jest?

Here is a copy of the letter sent to Georgia Arms just Thursday evening--effectively cancelling a contract he had to purchase 30,000 pounds of expended military brass in .223, 7.62mm, and .50 caliber:

(Excerpt) Read more at theshootist.net ...


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1 posted on 03/15/2009 2:54:49 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$
Think 223 is expensive now? Wait 60 days. It will be over a $1 per round.
2 posted on 03/15/2009 2:57:24 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Joe Brower

Ping


3 posted on 03/15/2009 2:58:17 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: mad_as_he$$

Thats why I am getting a civilian caliber next.


4 posted on 03/15/2009 3:01:37 PM PDT by omega4179 (Look out below! Thanks Obamanomics.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

We talked about this Friday at our local Glenn Beck we
surround them meet-up. Some of them are in local gun clubs
and knew this was coming along. It came up again in the
Atlanta Area Freepers meeting.


5 posted on 03/15/2009 3:04:27 PM PDT by jusduat (wondering,questioning,searching)
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To: mad_as_he$$
directive that all expended military brass must be shredded. His current contracts have been canceled, and he is notifying his customers across the country he can no longer supply their ammunition needs.

Please look into this immediately. This move by the Obama administration is nothing but a back-door strike against firearms ownership in this country--if shooters can't buy ammunition, the guns are little better than steel clubs--and this is obviously the intent.


Is there any way of tracing decisions like this to their source?

There's no other reason for this than to decrease the ammunition supply to the public.
6 posted on 03/15/2009 3:04:40 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: omega4179

The problem is that many sidearm calibers are used by both civilian and military, and this also nullifies melting down the old brass and re-molding it. This will even effect shotgun shell prices, though nominally.


7 posted on 03/15/2009 3:05:16 PM PDT by arderkrag (Liberty Walking (www.geocities.com/arderkrag))
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To: mad_as_he$$

If you don’t have a five year supply of 223 on hand now, you’re slackin....


8 posted on 03/15/2009 3:09:28 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: mad_as_he$$
How will this stupidly effect law enforcement ?
9 posted on 03/15/2009 3:14:06 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: mad_as_he$$
Think 223 is expensive now? Wait 60 days. It will be over a $1 per round.

I throw this out again as food for thought. Times are tough and money is tight, and any freepers who are wondering if there are any deals left might consider the following.

If you have waited to long to arm up, or if you want one more, look at the excellent milsurp CZ-52 pistol and 7.62X25 Tokarev ammo.

You can get a CZ-52 for about $200 at any gun show or at many gun stores. The ammo can be had for as low as 11 cents a bullet in any quantity you want. Extra mags are from $12 to $20 each.

The milsurp ammo is full metal jacket, firing an 85gr bullet at 1,600fps. These will go through car doors, kevlar helmets, kevlar vests etc like an icepick through butter. OTOH, they will also go through one bad guy and maybe hit a good guy behind him.

However, you can buy hollowpoints ("Wolf Gold" with brass shells) for about $19/50, or half the price of comparable 9mm JHPs. My test "Wolf Gold" JHP ammo expanded to .60 caliber, the same as my test 9mm JHPs.

So for $400, you could buy a CZ-52, 1,500 rounds of assorted ammo, and a few extra mags. OR, you could buy about 2/3s of a "brand name" pistol, and no ammo.

It's just a thought. This is a great bargain. The ammo is cheap and plentiful at all of the internet catalog sites. Don't wait, the libtards will soon slam the door on foreign gun and ammo imports, and the prices will go way up.

Another benefit of this pistol is that it is very accurate, with very fine sights. WIth this flat-shooting ammo, you can hit at 100 yards with ease. Downsides are brittle firing pins (buy a spare, and don't dry fire) and a decocking function that you should not trust. Just lower the SA hammer like a 1911. The safety works like a 1911, so if you are used to 1911s, it will be very easy to use the CZ-52

10 posted on 03/15/2009 3:14:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mad_as_he$$; blackie; Jeff Head; Issaquahking
I was listening to this discussion on the radio today. This was quite interesting:

"He stated most of this will now go to foundries where it will be melted down, cast in shippable forms, and likely be sold to China, one of the largest purchasers of U.S. metals on the open market."

Then China will melt it down, make military bullets for regimes like Mexico, so it can come back and kill us.

11 posted on 03/15/2009 3:22:40 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: mad_as_he$$

they cant ban the rifles...they know that, but they can make the ammo so expensive that you cant afford to shoot em.

Or at least they can try.

I will start buyin 223 hunting ammo before I will fold for that lot.


12 posted on 03/15/2009 3:24:25 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage, you don't care who you hurt.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Here we go.

MF’ing commie bastards


13 posted on 03/15/2009 3:24:56 PM PDT by mylife ( The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Charlespg
The guy from Georgia said he will begin tomorrow notifying LEO agencies that he cannot meet the demands for training ammo.
14 posted on 03/15/2009 3:25:03 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Any effect on .308? I guess this makes brass more expensive across the board.


15 posted on 03/15/2009 3:26:15 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Call your congresscritters and get them to fond out where this came from.

Also please note the DoD is NO LONGER selling ammo cans.

16 posted on 03/15/2009 3:26:16 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: AuntB
Excellent point. The Chinese will benefit and OUR military will suffer. Ammo will cost more everywhere for every caliber.
17 posted on 03/15/2009 3:27:35 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: willgolfforfood

Much of the military spent ammo is 308.


18 posted on 03/15/2009 3:28:12 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Travis McGee

I havent seen any romanian spam cans of tok ammo in a while.
Wish I had bought more at $50 per 1244 rd can


19 posted on 03/15/2009 3:30:03 PM PDT by mylife ( The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Emailed my Congresscritters about it. I expect Chambliss and Isakson will be raising hell about it and Barrow will act as if it’s not a problem (as per usual).


20 posted on 03/15/2009 3:30:52 PM PDT by arderkrag (Liberty Walking (www.geocities.com/arderkrag))
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