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1 posted on 02/27/2009 10:54:16 AM PST by Candor7
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I’m sure it’s just another consequence of global warming. ;)


2 posted on 02/27/2009 10:55:21 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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3 posted on 02/27/2009 10:55:47 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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Must be due to humans threatening mother nature we are going green.
4 posted on 02/27/2009 10:55:48 AM PST by edcoil (Slave owners could justify themselves too. Think about it Arnold.)
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At this point anyone advocating for regulating carbon emissions must have some alternative agenda.

Or be completely spaced out.

5 posted on 02/27/2009 10:56:20 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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6 posted on 02/27/2009 10:56:34 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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Don’t blame me I am doing my part to keep Earth warm - I’m CO2 positive!


7 posted on 02/27/2009 10:58:23 AM PST by DaveyB (A government's ability to give is proportionate to their power to take away!)
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Too bad the article is a year old.


8 posted on 02/27/2009 10:59:10 AM PST by revtown
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It’s amazing what happens when the sun decides to not spot for an extra year or two.


10 posted on 02/27/2009 10:59:32 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Who is now in charge of the "Office of the President-Elect"?)
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We’re slowly finding out that if you mess with any natural system, there are bound to be unforeseen effects. We just can’t get it through our heads, though.

We are almost at a point in time where there is no longer such thing as nature. Humans and our waste have become part of nature, and that’s something we’re going to have to learn to live with.. one way or the other.


11 posted on 02/27/2009 11:00:44 AM PST by leonid
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I have seen forecasts of massive global warming which are imminent.
Temperatures in the northern hemisphere are predicated to rise 30 40 degrees in just the next 3 months.

This temperature rise will cause massive vegetative changes in the landscapes of the Midwestern United States and other northern areas around the globe.

13 posted on 02/27/2009 11:01:00 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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Global cooling will make global warming look like a day at the beach.


17 posted on 02/27/2009 11:02:50 AM PST by Dapper 26
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Colorado is so contrarian. We're having a La Nina year, which means a warm, dry winter. Clippers drop snow in the mountains, but mostly miss the plains.

That said, the last few years there has been a slowing of the bark beetle plague because of colder winters. Hansen would probably call the beetles deniers.

19 posted on 02/27/2009 11:03:18 AM PST by colorado tanker (Oh my God, am I hoping for change.)
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Hundreds Attend Global Warming Summit!

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22 posted on 02/27/2009 11:06:09 AM PST by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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Wow, this has to go to an OP Ed here in Vegas, home of Hot Harry Reid!


23 posted on 02/27/2009 11:06:36 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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I can report from 18 degrees north, 66 degrees west, well bellow the Tropic of Cancer, that I have not had to turn on my air conditioner since November.


24 posted on 02/27/2009 11:10:03 AM PST by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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I’ve been saying for two years, after reading about sunspot activity, that it seems we are entering into another little ice age. Of course, when that becomes apparent, the GW nuts will say that their policies did it. By then, we will want some global warming, but the sad fact is that we can’t cause it even if we want to.


25 posted on 02/27/2009 11:10:05 AM PST by Defiant (If they put Bush in prison, it will let us know which one to storm.)
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Dang. Gorezilla running out of gas?


27 posted on 02/27/2009 11:13:41 AM PST by SparkyBass
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But it’s geting warmer and the polar bear are going to drown! Al Gore said so!!!!


28 posted on 02/27/2009 11:13:54 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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It’s not going to stop the zero from trying to implement his CO2 cap and trade policy which will cost the consumers hundreds of billions of dollars.


29 posted on 02/27/2009 11:14:00 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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There is no evidence that CO2 has ever caused significant warming on Earth, at least not when the concentrations were within 10-15 times of what they are today. Water vapor is, by far, the most important greenhouse gas in the Earth system. Water vapor accounts for about 95% of the greenhouse effect on Earth. -etl

THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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The graph above represents temperature and CO2 levels over the past 400,000 years. It is the same exact data Al Gore and the rest of the man-made global warmers refer to. The blue line is temps, the red, CO2 levels. The deep valleys represent 4 separate glaciation/ice-age periods. Look carefully at this historical relationship between temps and CO2 levels (the present is on the right hand side of the graph) and keep in mind that Gore claims this data is the 'proof' that CO2 has warmed the earth in the past. But does the data indeed show this? Nope. In fact, rising CO2 levels all throughout this 400,000-year period actually *followed* temperature increases -lagging behind by an average of 800 years! So it couldn't have been CO2 that got Earth out of these past glaciations. Yet Gore continually and dishonestly claims otherwise. Furthermore, the subsequent CO2 level increases due to dissolved CO2 being released from warming oceans, never did lead to additional warming, the so-called "run-away greenhouse effect" that Al Gore and his friends keep warning us about. In short, there is little if any evidence that CO2 had ever led to increased warming, at least not when the levels were within 10-15 times of what they are today. -etl
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"The above chart shows the range of global temperature through the last 500 million years. There is no statistical correlation between the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through the last 500 million years and the temperature record in this interval. In fact, one of the highest levels of carbon dioxide concentration occurred during a major ice age that occurred about 450 million years ago [Myr]. Carbon dioxide concentrations at that time were about 15 times higher than at present." [also see 180 million years ago, same thing happened]:
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=010405M
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So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.

In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change

ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) — Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193013.htm

33 posted on 02/27/2009 11:19:07 AM PST by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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