Posted on 01/28/2009 4:40:21 AM PST by Calpernia
There is a biography of Barry Soetoro 's Occidental College days. It states that when Barry Soetoro was 18-19 he attended school as BARRY SOETORO. And it wasn't until he met a girl by the name of REGINA that was the first to start calling him Barack. See:
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2008/04/11/obama-at-occidental-college/
The importance of this is that it clearly shows that Barry was using his Indonesian name, and of course, his Indonesian passport.
The International Herald Tribute (The Global issue of the New York Times)
also states:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/08/america/obama.php
"Nearly three decades ago, Barack Obama stood out on the small campus of Occidental College in Los Angeles for his eloquence, intellect and activism against apartheid in South Africa. But Obama, then known as Barry, also joined in the party scene."
The LA Times also claims below that Barry was the choice of names that Barry Soetoro used when he first arrived from Hawaii to Occidental:
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/29/local/me-oxy29
"Memories of 1980 at Occidental Colleges Haines Hall have the standard fragments of the era: stereos blasting the B-52s through the dorm, pot-fueled bull sessions about the revival of draft registration, late-night cramming for economics exams.
"That otherwise private nostalgia took on public significance this month when a former Haines Hall resident from Hawaii known at the time as Barry announced that he was forming an exploratory committee to run for president of the United States."
Even Occidental College states that Newsweek reported that Barry entered their college as BARRY SOETORO under his Indonesian passport and NOT as Barack Obama.
It was at Occidental where he stopped being called Barry and became Barack Obama, Newsweek pointed out in its account of Obamas formative years that featured his black-and-white freshman photo on the cover. It was when I made a conscious decision: I want to grow up, he told the magazine.
One of Barry Soetoro's college buddies says this of our Indonesian student:
http://www.verdugomonthly.com/article.php?id=382&IssueNum=32
"Tom Moyes remembers the first time he heard the name Barack Obama. It was in the fall of 2004, after the electrifying speech Obama delivered at the 2004 Democratic Convention. That was the oration, of course, which introduced the young would-be Illinois Senator to America and inspired an instant following not only in the U.S. but around the world. Moyes had missed the speech because he was on an extended vacation in New Zealand at the time. So I pick up this newspaper, says Moyes, who grew up in San Gabriel and graduated from Occidental College in Eagle Rock, and it has this huge article about this guy Barack Obama. And it says he had gone to Occidental at the same time I was there. And I said to myself, Theres no way. Id never heard the name Barack; Im thinking it must be a mistake. So I call a friend I went to Oxy with, Ken Sulzer, and I say, Ken, Im down here in New Zealand and theres this article about some guy named Barack that went to college with us. Who is that?! I said, Thats Barry, man, says Sulzer, using the nickname Obama went by during his youth, the guy with the big afro who lived across the hall from me in the dorm.
It is clear that the students at Occidental did not know Barry Soetoro by the name of OBAMA. Instead he was using his Indonesian name and passport. This story cleverly hides the fact that the confusion came not from the first name Barry or Barack, but because of the LAST NAME Soetoro vs. Obama.
Okay so why did Barry suddenly change his name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama a year after he entered school? (I don't believe that REGINA story above.) It was simple. His mother and adopted dad got divorced in August of 1980. So naturally, when he entered Occidental in 1979 he used his Indonesian name...then immediately after his mom's divorce he desired to revert back to his birth name of Barack Obama.
See divorce records at:
http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf
There's some some heavy differences.....
Number one...he's a Dim.
Number two...he's a black man.
I probably could stop right there.....
Number three...the MSM will not allow him to be pushed out.
Number four...Washington Pols on BOTH sides will not let that happen.
Number five...the Dim sheeple, would burn down everything.
If as a country we couldn't drum out a lying rapist....we ain't getting rid of this guy.
FWIW-
could = couldn’t
Thanks, null and void
Ping.
He isn’t black.
From that list, doesn’t sound like it is the dims that are the sheeple.
Time will tell.
Sure you can. Cornelius Harvey McGillicuddy IV runs, gets elected, and serves today in Congress under the same alias that his father used when he was a senator - Connie Mack.
You truly do make this stuff up as you go along, don't you?
I think you are very likely right, but I don’t see any proof of it here.
It would be good to see some of his various college records, which he refuses to release.
Occidental did make his bizarre poems public, since they were already part of the public record. And they did state that it was a lie that Barry was on the varsity basketball team, since that also was public record, if any reporters had bothered to check.
But we still dont KNOW that he applied as Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen, although it’s certainly very likely.
Do you know or have a pretty good idea that proof will come or is this just an offhand comment?
Do not disclose anything. If you want to PM me that is fine.
Steve Pidgeon appears to have gone silent and hopefully Ed Hale is starting to keep things quiet. I am hoping Pidgeon silence is a good thing.
My guess is at least 3 or 4 SCOTUS Justices are interested in still defending the Constitution. I am not sure if 1 or 2 others can be convinced.
For all intends and purposes he is....
And for you to deny that is just plain wrong.
I understand what you mean....but most people would call him black...and that is all that ultimately matters.
I'd guess that 90% of both houses of Pubbie pols....would NOT support Zero to be drummed out of office.
I've seen the elephant.....
On the other hand....I've seen a ton of myopic folks...on this subject.
Agreed..................
You give his lie credibility and support by supporting it. If you believe his father is Barack Obama Senior, then he is only 6.25 percent Native African, which is the definition used for black. His father is from the Omani Arabs that migrated to East Africa.
You are correct. There is no credible evidence within the links of this post that suggest Obama used the last name “Soetoro” on a passport.
I am becoming suspicious that these sort of posts are created by people supporting Obama and wish to discredit those that truly want an answer to his eligibility.
Your obviously are one of my biggest fans if you enjoy following my fiction.
I wouldn’t use the word, ‘we’.
With all due respect, you are not focused. Had you been, you would have realized BEFORE POSTING that your links are meaningless and only serve as fodder for those that link we are all right-wing nut jobs.
There is that ‘we’ again.
People with an imagination as wild as your's fascinate me.
I’m pleased that I fascinate you :)
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