Posted on 01/24/2009 6:10:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Gun sellers have been buzzing with activity lately as people have been stocking up in anticipation of what our new president might try to do to their right to own guns. One wag even named Obama Gun salesman of the year. (Dang, I wish I had thought of that.)
Mr. Obama generated a great deal of anxiety as he tried to convince gun owners to believe what he said not what he did.
Anyway, there were a lot of new guns under the Christmas tree last year. And if you got a new rifle, or even if you've had one a while, there's a program touring the country that looks interesting. It's the Appleseed Project, and here's what their website says:
The Appleseed Program is designed to take you from being a simple rifle owner to being a true rifleman. All throughout American history, the rifleman has been defined as a marksman capable of hitting a man-sized target from 500 yards away — no ifs, ands or buts about it. This 500-yard range is traditionally known as "the rifleman's quarter-mile;" a rifleman can hit just about any target he can see. This skill was particularly evident in the birth of our country, and was the difference in winning the Revolutionary War.
The program is coming to West Texas, and the first one is in just a few weeks. Here's a link to the PDF Flier for the event on February 21-22, 2009, at the Midland Shooters Association rifle range. And here's the price list. (Women, military and kids free!) More detailed information can be found here.
Actually, there are things going on at the range almost every weekend. For example, the learned and likable John Krenik puts on a High Power Rifle Match on the first Saturday of each month. Check out the photos. Many of the participants use AR-15s, and it's a great way to practice and compete with friends.
So unwrap that new gun or clean up the old one and head for the range. Don't be like me and let your shooting skills depreciate. You have to practice to get good, and you have to practice to stay good.
Been a long time since I have attended a high Power or even a Leg Match......:o) I get to a shoot house once or twice a week handgun and trigger time on a M4 carbine or M1A as well yet I miss the Whittington Center in NM.....Good bunch of folks. When I was active duty I had a Det Commander that let us go to Raton and compete all the time . That I miss !
LOL !!
This is a pretty good thread.......:o)
the gate guards only commented that Mrs G & myself must be 'Bonnie & Clyde'...had to unload em and stow in the trunk, but passed us thru...
of course that was 5 plus yrs ago...
EF&D outta be pimped on every thread possible as well...
who knew 'fiction' would be so prophetic ??? /rhetorical
LOL..... yeah I think 90% of the folks buying EBR’s now are investors or behind the curve and will fess em up on demand. As to the fine art of cache.....never leave all yer eggs in one basket.
Tell Bonnie I said hello for me Clyde !.......:o)
The Report of the Secretary of War, 1880, Volume III, under the chapter titled, “Extreme Ranges of Military Small Arms,” had this to say:
“The firing was done by Mr. R.T Hare of Springfield Armory who has the enviable distinction, so far as is known, of being the only person in the world who has hit the ‘Bull’s-Eye’ six feet in diameter at 2,500 yards with three different rifles, and who has ever fired at and hit so small a target as that described in this report at 3,200 yards.
In comparison with this, all other so-called ‘long range firing’ pales into insignificance. The gun was held under the arm, a muzzle rest only being used.”
The chapter on long range firing begins with a report from the Armory at Springfield, Massachusetts, May 9, 1879. It records the results of long range tests of U.S. Army Model 1873 .45-caliber rifles using 405 and 500-grain lead bullets, including variations in muzzle velocity and penetration of lead bullets through one-inch target boards and into sand. These tests were made at the request of the Chief of Ordnance. His interest had been aroused by reports of long range infantry fire, up to 1½ miles, during the1877-78 Turko-Russian War.
This reads like a shooting club after the range closes, and the bar opens. :)
My piece of advice is, if you're not buying a scope for your rifle, get an electronic red-dot sight for it. No matter how young your eyes, or how expert you are with an iron sight, electronic sights have been a game-changer for our infantry in this war. You owe yourself nothing less. Just be prepared to spend good money for a quality one like Eotech or Aimpoint. You can even add a 3x magnifier that sits behind the device, allowing for longer shots from what is essentially a close-in sight.
My only other advice is the old Wall Street adage, "buy on rumor, sell on news." The hot rumor at the SHOT show was that night vision is on the top of the list, because they feel that nobody will defend it, and they can confiscate it all easily.
Aw geez, NTSA.
The NRA isn’t perfect, but they are pro-2nd, they are large, they are effective, and they have better political clout.
GOA is ideologically more pure, but they don’t have near the same political clout.
How about JOIN BOTH?
Hmmmm.....We use the ITT Mariner NV Binoculars as well the odd ANPVS-14 or two we find in the bargin bin here and there..
Guess I can quit saving up the 75k for a SOPHIE thermal gizmo .......:o)
Let's not keep any secrets. Where is the source.
Need some conservative youngsters in the US armed forces as well. I have a daughter and my youngest (only son) in the USMC.
Chking it now!
What now? Been doing a LOT of running lately.
I wouldn't be dogging on Savage considering I get dime sized groups with a 30-06 at that range.
They also have training sessions in the Bastrop area(actually Davilla) , not far from Austin, around El Paso and an indoor session in Amarillo.
But the sessions are for training. Practice is the "on your own" aspect".
I will try to "hit" the next session in my area. One sick aspect of HR45 is that the sponsor is yet another member of the Illinois mafia, and is a former Black Panther.
Yeah Redcloak, Don’t support the oldest and most effective gun rights organization with the most experience in lobbying! Give your money to the little guys who you never hear mentioned by the gun-grabbers.
STD, I have spent time with Larry Pratt and respect him and GOA. However, anyone who says that the NRA is ineffective and that the GOA is better simply does not do the issue justice. I support both. They have the same goal at heart and that is fighting for our rights. Divisive propaganda such as your post only divides our community and makes life easier on the anti’s.
Not completely true, but mostly they are an educational group. But so is the SAF, it's the associated CCRKBA that is the lobbying group. SAF also supports gunowners in court, thus their support for Heller. Which case BTW, the NRA originally opposed.
NRA has been big in lobbying. But not so good in really pushing the RKBA in the Courts. SAF has been better in that area.
NRA, SAF, GOA, and JPFO all filed amicus briefs in Heller.
i seriously doubt most of the weapons in use at the “birth of our country” could reliably hit a man sized target at 500 meters. but thats just my view.
BTTT
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