Posted on 12/19/2008 9:11:44 PM PST by fwdude
BTTT!
Expect to see California turn “blue” in 2009.
Amazing how the left is hoping to magnify (through the presses) their "numbers" of activists. And to bully and cow anyone not toeing the gay party-line agenda. This map is a keeper.
The devil is screaming now...have you noticed? Give $100 to the cause and the restaurant you happen to work for is boycotted.
Check out the Alliance website. Lots of great information and case history.
In fact, California has voted against gay marriage twice already. I believe that would happen again. No state has implemented gay marriage because the folks voted for it.
I actually see the opposite happening, and yes, wonderfully amazing to me. As money supply dries up in CA, more people tend to get right down to the nitty gritty levels of Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs. And well, “gay marriage” happens to be one of those luxury items at the top (”actualizations”) on the heirarchy. And that’s why I see the exact opposite of what you suggest to happen.
I shall, and I really must.
I may be wrong, but Massachusetts comes to mind.
I do know that their Supreme Court refuses to allow a vote.
The courts will give it to the queers.
Sorry, gotta part with most Freepers here. Ever heard of inalienable rights? “Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”? If that is their liberty and how they can aspire to achieve happiness. Go do it. Have marriages and divorces and everything else. As to how churches deal with it. Let them sort that out. The government should not be in the position of dictating morality.
Our Founding Fathers set up a country of laws, with deference to a Creator, but a country of laws nonetheless. Central to our constitution is freedom of religion and it’s implied right, freedom of no religion. Government is not in a position to tell anyone what to do in their spare time. Beware the slippery slope of goverment involvement in every aspect of your life. Go ahead and give the government more power, next nobody will complain when they get to your demographic
Excuse me, but every law is legislation of a morality. Which kind is the question.
I was wrong. The courts mandated it.
ADF bump!
Murder, child molestation and theft are OK with you, right?
This can’t be right.
Wyoming?
There is something wrong with your map. Please fix it.
I have been fascinated by the culture wars for a long time, and I would question your statement about momentum. Appearances can be deceiving, and the political situation is secondary to the hearts and minds of the people. When Bush was first inaugurated eight years ago, gay marriage was little more than a pipe dream of the extreme left. Most homosexuals were against it, and the whole concept seemed ridiculous to most Americans.
Now, three states had gay marriages legalized by the judiciary. California was rolled back, but the victory cost tens of millions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of volunteers knocking on every door in California. The victory would be impossible without the tens of millions donated by the Mormon Church, or the hundreds of thousands of black voters who flocked to the polls to vote for Obama. I listen to James Dobsons AFA report, and it was made abundantly clear that should Prop 8 fail, the battle against gay marriage would be lost in America.
The nations youth is increasingly open to the idea of gay marriage, as is the public in general. Democratic presidential candidates can go to a homosexual rights forum without repercussions, Republican politicians support civil unions without repercussions. The Republican Vice President has an openly lesbian daughter. The new President Elect wants to repeal DOMA and Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, while pushing ENDA and hate crime protections for homosexuals.
New York and New Jersey are on the verge of approving gay marriage through a legislative bill. Seems to me that the momentum is going the other way, California was not Stalingrad, it was the Battle of Moscow, a lifeline, but not a change in momentum.
There is something wrong with your map. Please fix it.
I think Wyomians (sp?) are a different animal. They still have the mindset that encompassed America 50 years ago - a cultural fabric that substitutes for laws. I don't think Wyoming is in any danger.
People do not have an inalienable right to perversion. You forget the history of this country. Sodomy was a serious crime in all parts of the land. The pursuit of happiness is a purposely vague term, but it is not an unbounded term, as you would like to make it. It is still a concept bound by the laws of the land.
By your logic, we are restricting the inalienable rights of crooks and thieves to pursue their trade. We restrict adults from their right to marry young children. We restrict people’s rights to marry more than one person. We restrict the right of people to marry animals. we restrict people’s rights to marry inanimate objects.
You see, we have the right to define what marriage is. You can’t just change the definition of what ‘marriage’ is without changing its nature. Marriage is between a man and a woman. That’s what it is. Gay people cannot get married.
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