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This is the worst political mess ever to confront Americans, especially now that the Illinois political machine mess has risen from the sewers of Chicago to the front pages of the few reliable newspapers left.
1 posted on 12/13/2008 3:36:19 AM PST by IbJensen
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“A comprehensive debunking of arguments that Obama is ineligible for the presidency.”

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/claims-of-obama-proofers-go-poof


2 posted on 12/13/2008 3:43:53 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: IbJensen

Give it up.


3 posted on 12/13/2008 3:45:30 AM PST by xlib
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The sad truth of the matter is that President-elect Barack Obama has REFUSED to provide proof that he is constitutionally qualified to hold the office!

What authoritative request or demand has he refused?

If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have been allowed in – since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S. citizens

This is a lie, and anybody who repeats it without evidence has zero credibility.

5 posted on 12/13/2008 3:46:51 AM PST by Jim Noble (Keep hope alive)
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Worst political mess? The birth certificate thing? Hardly.


7 posted on 12/13/2008 3:56:40 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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Thanks, IbJensen for the great thread.

Save the Constitution Ping.


8 posted on 12/13/2008 3:58:54 AM PST by Iowan
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   That's why Obama has continually REFUSED to produce a valid copy of his vaulted birth certificate.

   That's why his teams of attorney have continually tried to BLOCK efforts to compel him to produce his vaulted birth certificate.


  Obama and his lawyers still believe that the Constitution means something. Otherwise, they wouldn't make the effort to obfuscate and deceive.
15 posted on 12/13/2008 4:26:53 AM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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I'm not saying that President-elect Obama is NOT constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.

The problem is we simply do not know!


Of course we know!

Read this chart. It explains why Obama is not a natural born citizen in a manner anyone can understand.

The Natural Born Citizen Chart


18 posted on 12/13/2008 4:29:12 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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Just show us the vault copy of your birth certificate, 0bama, and the whole argument will be over.

This is so damn silly! Why can’t some people see that he’s hiding something?

I suspect that the Hawaiian government has found itself in a serious mess. It says he has a vault birth certificate. But, it knows that it has to be stamped, signed, certified by the government before it can be released and proven. And it can’t get past the many talented and trained investigators who will examine such a document and prove that the government of Hawaii has changed the vault copy to oblige 0bama.


23 posted on 12/13/2008 4:46:42 AM PST by kitkat (THE DAY WE LOSE OUR WILL TO FIGHT WILL BE THE DAY WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM.)
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Simply stated, if the Electoral College actually allowed an unqualified person to be elected President of the United States, or allowed a person to be elected without verifying that that he or she is qualified, our entire form of government could be compromised!

If that were true, why does the Constitution provide a procedure for what to do when the Electoral College chooses a President-Elect who is unqualified?

Maybe they were bored that day?

24 posted on 12/13/2008 4:47:19 AM PST by Jim Noble (Keep hope alive)
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Brokaw, let me say it for you, the media did the fraud,

America!
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Thank you Media, for the Fraudulent, One-Sided, Election of 2008
27 posted on 12/13/2008 5:20:54 AM PST by Son House (Mr. Øbama, Your Tax Increases Are Decreasing Job Opportunities)
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Enough Already, The people voted. Respect the vote.


35 posted on 12/13/2008 6:34:58 AM PST by Sci Fi Guy (Brian De Palma hates America)
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Obama will face no consequences about the birth certificate controversy....IMO

If we’d be talking about a Republican having this problem, the newspapers would be all over it.

When I mentioned this to a few people, they knew NOTHING about it. This is just the beginning of how Obama will be protected by the media.


43 posted on 12/13/2008 7:08:33 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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What if... you woke up one morning and found out that the President of the United States was a USURPER... a FRAUD... a PHONY?

We got one in power now - he passed himself off as a Republican.

52 posted on 12/13/2008 10:26:13 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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wow, that was long.


57 posted on 12/13/2008 1:40:24 PM PST by stompk
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What if... you woke up one morning and found out that the President of the United States was a USURPER... a FRAUD... a PHONY? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama is NOT my president.
71 posted on 12/13/2008 8:06:32 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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If anything on the original doctor-signed vault certificate does not match the thing posted on the Obama website, it's fraud. If the guy here who analyzed the COLB posted is correct, Obama should be history. THAT is why I want to see the vault original. It won't matter if his dad was a Kenyan or Brit. It won't matter if he was born in the US or Kenya or Canada. It won't matter if he became an Indonesian or is still named Soetoro.
79 posted on 12/14/2008 8:14:11 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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This will be the biggest fraud ever perpetrated, anywhere, anytime in history.

Zero is absolutely hiding somthing BIG. His actions in hiding this simple document, show he is dishonest and probably not Constitutionally qualified to be POTUS.

His plan, stall and hope no one finds out, get in office, and hope the issue goes away.

I don’t think so Zero! You have not proven a basic requirement to hold that office. No birth certificate, no peace. Illegal usurper will occupy The White House. Not my president,no way, no how.


115 posted on 12/17/2008 8:22:30 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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