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To: IbJensen
I'm not saying that President-elect Obama is NOT constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.

The problem is we simply do not know!


Of course we know!

Read this chart. It explains why Obama is not a natural born citizen in a manner anyone can understand.

The Natural Born Citizen Chart


18 posted on 12/13/2008 4:29:12 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Beckwith
It explains why Obama is not a natural born citizen in a manner anyone can understand.

There are a few here who refute this. Forget that his grandmother and other relatives stated that they were present at his birth in 1961 in Kenya.

19 posted on 12/13/2008 4:30:55 AM PST by IbJensen (The fat lady has sung and it was awful. Coming up: Maya Angelou!)
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To: Beckwith

That chart is a bit one-sided. For example, the first one actually concludes that Obama IS a natural born citizen if he was born on U.S. Soil.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=169&invol=649

Quote:

In U. S. v. Rhodes (1866), Mr. Justice Swayne, sitting in the circuit court, said: ‘All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural- born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England.’

That specific issue is debated in the Kim Ark case.

There was a specific issue for Chinese naturalization (founded both in treaty and in statute) but not for those of African or European origin since the exemptions applied to persons of Chinese descent didn’t apply.

The conclusion:

“In other words, the fourteenth amendment does not exclude from citizenship by birth children born in the United States of parents permanently located therein, and who might themselves become citizens; nor, on the other hand, does it arbitrarily make citizens of children born in the United States of parents who, according to the will of their native government and of this government, are and must remain aliens”.

Kim Ark didn’t qualify because he was of Chinese descent.

Overall, “citizenship by birth” equates to “natural born citizen”.

Ergo, unless Obama is part Chinese, being born on American soil does entitle him to run for President.


26 posted on 12/13/2008 5:03:51 AM PST by Don Stadt
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