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The Beginning of The End: Congress To Nationalize The Auto Industry
The Patriot Room ^ | December 8, 2008 | Bill Dupray

Posted on 12/08/2008 6:32:55 AM PST by Bill Dupray

When the government takes over an industry, there are no market forces in play; politicians who no nothing about running anything decide they know how to revive a flagging industry; and new products are made based on Congressional political agendas rather than a public demand.

When the British did a "bailout" 40 years, it was the end of the British auto industry.

Congress is about to do the same thing.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: automakers; bailout; big3; congress
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To: Bill Dupray

Congress has already attempted to kill it through their unfunded mandates, etc. The cos. are caught between the unsustainable costs of the unions and those imposed by gov’t, so death is inevitable. It’s just a shame that Congress intends to shovel lots of tax $ into the black hole before the expiration.


21 posted on 12/08/2008 7:20:19 AM PST by penowa
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To: IYAS9YAS

Don’t forget the Ford Fairmont and Tempo.


22 posted on 12/08/2008 7:21:17 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Bill Dupray

Everyone lets get this spelling test right the first time!

Todays auto related words and a fine examples of a Government controlled industry, three autos everyone would die to own and in fact did die for-—spell————”ZIL”

Second word—————”LADA”

Third word————”TRABANT”

HA HA HA we are about to become SOCIALIZED—sure is sweet, dont you-all think?


23 posted on 12/08/2008 7:24:26 AM PST by ScareyFast63
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To: penowa

Funny, Toyota and Honda have no problem meeting CAFE standards and the like...

Let the car companies die. They well deserve it. (As do the banks, I might add.)


24 posted on 12/08/2008 7:25:31 AM PST by nicola_tesla (www.fedupusa.org)
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To: Bill Dupray

We are definitely not seeing the beginning of the end. The beginning was what happened in the Great Drpression still driving us toward bankruptcy at an ever increasing clip. In fact, I am afraid that we are very close to the end of capitalism and freedom and our Constitutional Republic. If you had any reservation about ‘trickle down economics’, wait till you experience ‘trickle down dictatorship’


25 posted on 12/08/2008 8:01:52 AM PST by llotter (Without Responsiblilty, People Will Act Irresponsible.)
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To: nicola_tesla
"Funny, Toyota and Honda have no problem meeting CAFE standards and the like..."

Making smaller vehicles is mainly the reason why they've had no problem. Detroit has made their $ on pick-ups, SUV's and large vehicles, some of which have gotten a pass on the standards because they are a different class of vehicle, but no more. That, the recent high price of gas, and the unsustainable legacy costs have finally put them in the position they are currently in.

I agree I would not give them or the banks a dime. Let the market work instead of prolonging the agony and making the situation worse by bail-outs for "the chosen."

26 posted on 12/08/2008 8:05:45 AM PST by penowa
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To: Bill Dupray

Interesting thought. However, what will Congress do about the Jap, Korean, German and Swede car companies? To force Americans to buy Congressionally made autos it’ll tax the foreign companies to the point they can’t compete.

Once they’re out of the way I’m sure we’ll be able to buy the best and cheapest cars made in America.


27 posted on 12/08/2008 8:12:52 AM PST by dools007
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To: SkiKnee

I am on my second Tacoma. 1988 & 1999. They are typically bulletproof.
They had a frame rust problem for 1995-2000 trucks. I had mine repaired for $200. However, they are offering Kelly Blue Book full retail value times 1.5 if I trade it in before it is 15 years old. When you trade the truck in the are crushing them to get them off the market.
I can not imagine one the the big three offering something like that to a customer after 30000 miles.


28 posted on 12/08/2008 8:20:31 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: IYAS9YAS

“Can anyone tell me when the taxpayer is going to get a bailout?”

Yes... NEVER. Your only function as a responsible, tax paying, law abiding citizen is to shoulder the burden and sit quietly while your intellectual and moral superiors in Washington DC explain to you the proper way to run the country.

If you disagree with this you are unpatriotic.


29 posted on 12/08/2008 8:43:38 AM PST by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: Bill Dupray

Right you are my FRiend. The strangling and destruction of the free enterprise system has begun. It will continue until all property, including people, belong to the State.

On November 4, 2008 a majority of those who claim to be Americans decided and expressed via their votes that they had absolutely no problem with being a State Owned slave.


30 posted on 12/08/2008 8:53:39 AM PST by sport
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To: massgopguy
You had an Austin Marina? My condolences. It could have been worse...you could have had a Leyland Princess.
31 posted on 12/08/2008 9:02:07 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: navyguy

For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. (1Timothy 2:5) One mediator can’t mean a priest, pope, or Mary.


32 posted on 12/08/2008 9:08:45 AM PST by deepseaangler (deepseaangler)
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To: Bill Dupray

A riter in name only huh? Public education. That’s kool.


33 posted on 12/08/2008 9:10:44 AM PST by billhilly (Sayonara Detroit)
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To: deepseaangler

“For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. (1Timothy 2:5) One mediator can’t mean a priest, pope, or Mary.”

Don’t you know those days are over? We’re multicultural now! There is a new God... GOVERNMENT. And THEY shall lord over all of us because THEY know what we need and how much of it we need. Geez... get with the new Progressive vision, would ya?

Oh yeah... you used the word “Jesus” so now I’m offended. My feelings are hurt. You should be shut down and imprisoned by our new God. You’re so oppressive!


34 posted on 12/08/2008 9:20:56 AM PST by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: VRWCmember

Chicago Tribune. Sunday, December 8 “rides” section page 7. 2009 Toyota Tacoma 4x2, regular cab, 5-speed, 2dr, 15” steel wheels. $14,495.


35 posted on 12/08/2008 11:04:41 AM PST by SkiKnee
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To: SkiKnee

Wow. Thanks. I didn’t realize there was such a price jump between the base model and the extended cab version with automatic transmission.


36 posted on 12/08/2008 11:15:54 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

Yeah. I guess 5-speeds aren’t all that popular. I’m funny that way, I like to shift gears, feels more like I’m actually driving the thing. Thats just me though.


37 posted on 12/08/2008 11:21:11 AM PST by SkiKnee
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To: Army Air Corps

Or a Triumph TR7 . What a pile of junk . Nothing but trouble from day 1 . Kept it 6 months and traded it in for a Toyota Celica liftback . THAT was a car .


38 posted on 12/08/2008 1:46:17 PM PST by sushiman
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To: sushiman

Was the wonderful Lucas wiring that gave you fits?


39 posted on 12/08/2008 2:46:53 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: sushiman

I know what you mean about the Celica. I have an uncle who bought one new when he graduated from university in 1978. He drove that car for many years until he bought an Acura. He continued to use the Celica as his “commuter mobile”; he put about 200k miles on the car and it kept going despite the passenger door lock being broken (you could only lock or unlock the passenger door from the inside).


40 posted on 12/08/2008 2:50:26 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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