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The Relevant Obama Admission (Rut Roh!)
Natural Born Citizen Blog ^ | 12/05/2008 | Leo C. Donofrio

Posted on 12/05/2008 11:54:45 AM PST by America2012

At Barack Obama’s web site, the following admission:
“FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship

‘When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…’ “

Read that last line again.

“That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…”

That’s an admission that Great Britain “governed the status” of Barack Obama, Jr. Barack Obama has chosen to highlight this on his own volition.

And this leads to the relevant question:

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’S STATUS BE “GOVERNED” BY GREAT BRITAIN?

A natural born citizen’s status should only be governed by the United States. This is the core issue before the Supreme Court of the United States.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; choomgang; donofrio; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; scotus; supremecourt
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Looks like Barry screwed up.


1 posted on 12/05/2008 11:54:45 AM PST by America2012
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To: America2012

Unfortunately none of this matters. Foreign-born; foreign-financed. Nevertheless: our next president.


2 posted on 12/05/2008 11:57:06 AM PST by samtheman
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To: America2012
This doesn't necessarily mean anything.Yes,under British/Kenyan law in effect at the time Hussein might have been a British subject/citizen from birth but even if this is the case it doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't *also* a US citizen from birth.
3 posted on 12/05/2008 11:59:10 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: samtheman
Foreign-born; foreign-financed. Nevertheless: our next president.

If the SCOTUS decides to actually take this case and rules 1)that Hussein was *not* born in the US and 2)that,under US citizenship laws in effect at the time of his birth,his mother could *not* transmit US citizenship at his birth then,unless I'm mistaken,the Court would be *forced* to rule that he's ineligible to serve given the requirements laid out by the Constitution.

Yes,that's a lot of "ifs" and it's very possible that the SCOTUS won't have the guts to do what's right (if it is right) but....

4 posted on 12/05/2008 12:04:14 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Scotus: SHOW US YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE

Obama: Ok, I’m having it shipped from Hawaii right now...I just got word that the transport truck was in an accident and destroyed.

Scotus: Ok, we’ll take a copy

Obama: ok, i’m having a low resolution copy faxed right now


5 posted on 12/05/2008 12:08:33 PM PST by Troll_House_Cookies (Ironically, Chancellor Obama's first re-education camp will be in Alaska.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The Founding Fathers were essentially in the same position as Obama - born under British rule (or rather born to fathers who were under British Rule). That’s why they SPECIFICALLY authorized themselves to be eligible to be President in Article 2 of the Constitution “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;... “

They didn’t consider themselves “natural born citizens”.


6 posted on 12/05/2008 12:11:23 PM PST by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

” it doesn’t necessarily mean that he wasn’t *also* a US citizen from birth.”

US citizen from birth and natural born citizen are NOT the same thing.

The original definiton of natural born citizen (the definiton the founders used) was born in the US and BOTH parents were US citizens at the time of birth.

By that defintion, you can be born in the US and still not be a natrual born citizen.


7 posted on 12/05/2008 12:21:16 PM PST by Brookhaven (The Fair Tax is THE economic litmus test for conservatives)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)

You've heard people say "do not listen to what Israelis or Palestinians say in English. Listen to what they say in Hebrew and Arabic.

I wonder if the same rule applies here.

Here is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.
8 posted on 12/05/2008 12:22:14 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: samtheman

The American people of all sizes and shapes would riot if Oprah’s Choice were denied his “rightful possession” based on undefined “natural born” terminology.


9 posted on 12/05/2008 12:26:06 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

SCOTUS has NO guts except when it comes to the imposition of socialism.


10 posted on 12/05/2008 12:27:44 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: samtheman

Unfortunately, I think you are right.

I would love to see the Supremes take this up and rule that Obama can’t be President. While I know this will cause rioting, I truely fear the slow boiling of our rights under an Obama presidency more than a nation wide riot right now.

My gut tells me that they will cave to pressures and find a loop hole that lets this requirement be skipped.

Part of me thinks that the issue of whether Obama was born in America or Kenya isn’t that big of a deal, the other part of me questions what does ignoring requirements do in setting precidents for the future.

The one question I have, would be to the legality of things signed by Obama as President, if he doesn’t meet the full requirements of being the President.

On a personal note, I would love to watch the media scream if the Supremes over-rule Obama’s assent.


11 posted on 12/05/2008 12:49:57 PM PST by ScubieNuc (clinging to my guns and my religion)
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To: America2012

British citizens can hold dual citizenship...

I hold UK/Canadian citizenship because of this...


12 posted on 12/05/2008 12:51:12 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: ScubieNuc

Read this. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2143217/posts

This won’t stop if the SC refuses to hear it today. All it takes is for one judge to issue a subpoena for Obama’s BC and the house of cards collapses.


13 posted on 12/05/2008 1:04:14 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is the Antichrist.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
All it takes is for one judge to issue a subpoena for Obama’s BC and the house of cards collapses.

Pray then, where is that one brave judge?

14 posted on 12/05/2008 1:18:19 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Gay State Conservative

Actually there is an easy way out for the SCOTUS:
“It is the responsibility of Secretaries of State of the Several States to certify candidates for elections within their states. We will not second guess them. If they failed to properly investigate the candidates, it is NOT OUR PROBLEM. Case Dismissed.”


15 posted on 12/05/2008 1:30:15 PM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Larry - Moe and Curly

No, they weren’t in the same position.

They KNEW they were not natural born citizens, nor could they be, of a country that did not yet exist. They chose to make everyone living in the US at the time citizens.

That solution had the effect of lasting until the last person alive when the constitution was adopted died then that provision became moot.
It has zero to do with Zero.


16 posted on 12/05/2008 1:32:03 PM PST by Adder (typical basicly decent bitter white person)
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To: Theodore R.

Rioting is serious business and could happen anywhere but I’m a strong believer in the National Guard and anything else the local gov’t would have to offer if rioting would occur because right now OUR Constitution is at stake and I would rather have that compared to someone under false pretense become POTUS.


17 posted on 12/05/2008 1:47:32 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: ScubieNuc

My take is that this is a HUGE issue, that the Constitution says what it says and means what it says and to ignore this simple, well-defined requirement will be a disaster for our country... not just because Obama will be a disaster... but because ignoring the Constitutional law on such an important matter will, in and of itself, be a disaster.

I don’t care how many of Oprah’s people riot.

Bring.

It.

On.


18 posted on 12/05/2008 1:54:53 PM PST by samtheman
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To: America2012
This is really stupid. Barak's father was a legal resident of Hawaii. That made both Barak Sr. and Jr. subject to the jurisdiction of the US. Whether Barak Sr. was a US citizen or not is immaterial.
19 posted on 12/05/2008 2:07:43 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Gay State Conservative
This doesn't necessarily mean anything.Yes,under British/Kenyan law in effect at the time Hussein might have been a British subject/citizen from birth but even if this is the case it doesn't necessarily mean that he wasn't *also* a US citizen from birth.

Exactly. Why should a foreign law to decide who our President should be? It's crazy.

20 posted on 12/05/2008 2:47:49 PM PST by Kleon
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