Posted on 11/07/2008 6:47:37 PM PST by mnehring
This is interesting. Souter tells Obama to produce the vault copy by December 1, 2008. I believe the messiah will defy the Justices.
Who will force the issue? Who wants to open up that pandora's box? Imagine if there is something on that birth certificate that disqualifies Obama from the office of the President. What are you going to do? Start a civil war? There will be blood in the streets you try to enforce the rule of law. This should have happened before the election. Obambi knows it too.
Here is the fraud report first reported at Atlas.
The Supreme Court and Obama's Birth Certificate organicpeas
If The Supreme Court Decides…?
At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. At that time, Mr. Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.
If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.
"I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect."
Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts its votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.
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I wasn’t able to get into Free Republic yesterday for some reason so I don’t know what has been discussed yet since that post.
There was a thread on this site that talked about someone claiming that CIA sources said that his mother went to Cuba and stayed for awhile and came away pregnant.
It is one of those things that may not be true.
Actually, you don’t know that it is in writing. No where do you see anything that says produce the birth certificate.
I couldn’t find the thread that discussed this information but did a search on Google.
Here is a link about it
http://www.babalublog.com/archives/010416.html
No basis for truth. Could be a complete fake. That said, given the characters involved it is certainly plausible.
wouldn’t that be something if is Father was really Cuban.
Well, if they weren't married...doesn't that make him a bastard?
How can they vote for him if he proves to be disqualified?
Thanks for the ping!
Many more posts in it, though. :-)
Kyrie Eleison!
It is all a moot point since the powers that be have already decided that to find out Barack is not qualified will cause riots and mayhem so the fraud is being ignored. OUR Constitution means nothing since we the people are no longer the sovereigns of this once great Republic. When courts declare that one or more of the sovereigns have no standing to question a candidate’s qualifications based upon the Constitution, the people are no longer the sovereigns and the Republic is dead. ‘Long live the Republic’ ... buy ammo
This is Dy-no-mite! if true.
I just flat out don't believe that. I see the most likely result of the Petition for Cert as being outright failure to get votes to hear the case period. No further remedy. Certainly not from David Souter.
There is just nothing in the procedure for any remedy remotely like this.
Further this is a highly charged political issue which is the kind of question the Court has historically ducked. It is not the kind of case the Court wants to hear or consider.
It would be nice to be wrong.
Same mother so could this strategy have been used twice?
His fathe was already married and later married a gal from Great Brit. Seems he believed in multiple wives....Wonder what gave him that idea?
The only thing that Obama is required to do is to file a brief in opposition to the petition for a writ of certiorari. Then the SC decides whether or not to grant the writ. Then it goes for briefs and a hearing. Either the SC will uphold the rejection on standing or settle the standing issue and send it back to the trial court for an evidentiary hearing on the facts.
Oh, I have said for months that Obama must produce his birth certificate to prove that he is a natural born citizen.
And the Constitution requires that this should be done.
BUT, if the duly constituted authorities refuse to do their constitutional duty, then what next? As I said, I am afraid that SCOTUS and congress (ha) and the rest of the relevant authorities will simply shrug this off. The result will be resentment, doubt, and widespread belief that Obama is NOT a US citizen at all.
SCOTUS has been broken ever since Earl Warren got hold of it, and Obama will ensure that it gets MUCH worse. I’m not sure there are enough Republican senators left to filibuster and block his illegal actions. Once he gets in, he will BE in, and good luck getting him out.
I suppose Roberts could refuse to administer the oath, but no doubt they could get David Souter or someone else to do it instead. So I doubt if he will make that gesture.
Well, I think I read the words “no standing” in the decision, although again that’s probably interpretable, and I’m working from memory. No standing to halt the election process, perhaps, rather than no standing to ask for the birth certificate to be produced.
Not in the state of Hawaii.
In Hawaii a child is legitimate even if the marriage is bigamous. See
http://law.jrank.org/pages/11834/Annulment-Prohibited-Marriage-Prohibited-Marriage.html
Therefore, Obama is not a “bastard”, because he is not illegitimate.
Whether Obama was born “out of wedlock” is yet another question. My bet is that because Obama’s parents were married and divorced and the legality of the marriage has never been challenged in court, that he would not qualify as “born out of wedlock”, but this case could turn on some fine points of Hawaiian and Federal law.
Also to consider here is the origin of the designation “natural-born” which originated in English law and the purpose of which was a test for undivided loyalty “to the King”. Obama, possibly a citizen of Kenya, the USA, and Indonesia may have trouble along these lines, especially because he promoted the election of Rail Odinga in Kenya, and probably traveled to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport at a time Indonesia did not permit dual nationality.
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