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If Obama Wins, Should Republicans Hope Democrats Win HUGE?
American Sentinel ^ | November 2, 2008 | Michael Eden

Posted on 11/02/2008 4:05:37 PM PST by Michael Eden

The polls are all over the place in the Presidential race. I've had Democrats pointing to polls that have Obama up by as much as 14 points. This morning I assumed I must have slept through Wednesday, because the crowd at ABC's "This Week" were all talking about the election as though McCain had lost in a Iandslide. Questions were phrased in terms of, "Is there anything that McCain could have done?" "What did McCain do wrong that cost him this election?" Personally, I still believe that McCain will eek out a victory, as voters who have no real inclination to support McCain will realize that they have very good reason to reject Obama. I just can't imagine that the country would decide to make the most inexperienced, most liberal, and most radical candidate in U.S. history our next President given our fragile state.

But I've got to face reality. Maybe all those talking heads on "This Week" are right. I frankly don't know which polls are "most accurate" (if any), or who will surge or who will fade (although it seems to me - given their Iraq positions - that it be only fitting that McCain "surge" and Obama's "victory" turn into a "cut and run" on him). But regardless of what I hope will happen, or even what I think will happen, there's always what might happen: Obama is clearly favored to win this election, and Democrats are clearly favored to win massive control of the House and the Senate under Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

The question is, if Obama does win, what should Republicans hope for about the Congressional elections? What should we hope for during the course of the next two years? During an Obama Presidency? Should we want Republicans to do well enough to filibuster? Or should we want to see Democrats do so well they destroy the country and destroy their own political futures in the process? Should Republicans hope the economy recovers and hums along under Democratic leadership, or should we literally hope the economy tanks under the Democrats' control?

You've got plenty of your ordinary, traditional conservatives out there. They want what's best for the country because they've always put country over party. They want to see the economy pick up, they want to see the United States maintain and even expand its power and influence. They want to see the country continue to remain great, because that's what they've always wanted.

It's what I always wanted. At least up to now. I was so proud to enlist in the United States Army with Ronald Reagan as my Commander-in-Chief. I was proud to wear two Armed Forces Expeditionary Medals and the Combat Infantryman Badge on my chest. And I continued to remain proud of my country after I left the Army. During the Clinton years, I told more than a few bitter Republicans, "Whether you voted for him or not, he's STILL your President!" I didn't vote for President Clinton, and was disappointed by his victory; but I was an American, and he was my President because my country voted for him. I prayed for his wisdom and leadership. Too bad so many Democrats never brought any similar bipartisanship with them. They worked to undermine President Bush in every way they could.

But something happened to me. Maybe I began to stop being proud of my country when Michelle Obama finally STARTED being proud of hers. Maybe it was when I discovered that Barack Obama's pastor and spiritual adviser for 23 years years said, "No, no, no! Not God bless America. God damn America!" He called America "the US of KKK A." And Democrats didn't care about this outrage. Maybe it was when I found out that Barack Obama had partnered with a man who had bombed the Pentagon, the Capital, and New York Police headquarters, who said on 9/11/2001 that he not only didn't regret setting bombs, he felt he didn't bomb enough. Finding out that Obama's rat bastard pal dedicated a book to Robert Kennedy murderer Sirhan Sirhan sure didn't help. I suppose that I feel that if a man like this could actually be elected President of the United States, that there must be something profoundly wrong with the country and with the people who live in it.

I just cannot bring myself to support God Damn America. Or even wish it well. We have become so amoral that we easily support the death-by-mutilation of 50,000,000 babies. In fact, we have become so immoral that we are prepared to make a man who voted to let babies who have been born alive be killed. I find myself hoping that the economy goes down the tubes under the Democrats' control, because that appears to be the only way that people will support traditional values or the party that seeks to uphold them.

If Barack Obama is elected President, I will quote the man he called his pastor and spiritual mentor for 23 years: GOD DAMN AMERICA! THE U.S. OF KKK A!!! And I will say my prayers accordingly: where I used to say, God, please don't give us the judgment we deserve, I will say, "Lord, we voted for God damn America; go ahead and give it to us!"

I finally understand all the Democrats' who expressed such vitriolic hatred of George Bush and the America that voted for him. I love the America that the founding fathers envisioned; these Democrats repudiate that historic vision for America - and with their messiah - view our Constitution as having had an "enormous blind spot" which "reflected the fundamental flaw of this country." They think the Constitution and the country were deeply flawed; I think the flaw has always laid with the people who kept corrupting our system of government by imposing their will in place of our Constitution because they thought they knew better.

I loved the America of which Kennedy said, "Ask... what you can do for your country"; Today's Democrats say, "Ask what your country can do for you." Or, to put it in Obama-Wright terms, Democrats hated the God bless America that we once were; I hate the God damn America that they promise to usher in.

I wonder how many conservatives will criticize me for my new feelings about Obama's "new America." One thing is for certain: No one who votes for Barack Obama can criticize me; you can't vote for 'God damn America' and then criticize me for saying the same thing. I'll bring up the last guy you Democrats nominated, and how John Kerry accused his fellow servicemen as a bunch of genocidal war criminals - before taking it back - and how he threw away his medals. I won't throw away my medals; they remind me of a country I loved, and was once so proud to serve and even shed my blood to defend. I'll bring up how Democrat after Democrat after Democrat justified the Iraq War until they cynically and cravenly repudiated that support for sheer political expedience. Even though nearly 60% of Democratic Senators had voted for that war. Even though the measure passed by wider margins in both branches of Congress than the 1991 war resolution. I'll bring up Rep. Jack Murtha, who accused innocent Marines of murderous war crimes before he accused his own Pennsylvanian voters of being racists. I'll bring up Sen. Dick Durbin, who compared U.S. servicemen to Nazis. I'll bring up Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who was so quick to proclaim defeat for American soldiers while they were fighting on the battlefield. I'll bring up Democratic Whip James Clyburn, who said that success in Iraq "would be a real big problem for us, no question about that." I'll bring up every single sermon that Barack Obama's pastor for 23 years preached, right down to the last hateful word. Right down to calling the United States "the US of KKK A." Hell, I could start bombing buildings like Barack Obama's terrorist pal William Ayers and Democrats couldn't accuse me of squat without being even bigger even hypocrites than they already are.

But I do wonder how conservatives - whose opinions I actually DO give a rip about - feel about my anger and bitterness over the prospect that half the country (or more, or less, as we'll find out November 4) would elect such an un-American - or at least such a 'God Damn America' American - for President. I feel like Dietrich Bonhoeffer must have felt as he watched his beloved Germany fervently embracing Nazism. The German people in the 1920s wanted "change", too: and Adolf Hitler gave them change in spades.

Right or wrong, this is how I feel: I actually hope that if Obama wins, Republicans lose HUGE. You know how, when you realize that your professional sports team won't make it to the playoffs, you come to start hoping they lose so many games that they'll receive a high draft pick? I'm kind of there in my politics, given an Obama win. The fewer Republicans there are to blame for the disaster that is going to overtake this country, the better. The whole charade that has led to such anti-Republicanism has been due to the demonization by Democrats and by the overwhelmingly biased liberal media. Let Republicans be so utterly rejected that liberals have no one - and I mean absolutely no one - to blame but themselves so that their ideas and their candidates can be vilified for the next fifty years or so.

The media has been so blatantly biased that we are now in a propaganda state. There is no possible way that Republicans can win in this media climate: whether you look at the Media Research Center, or at the Project for Excellence in Journalism (or again at their brand new study), or at the University of Wisconsin's Wisconsin Advertising Project, there is widespread agreement with one longtime ABC journalist that the media is dangerously biased. Pew Research discovered that Americans believe by a 70% to 9% margin that the media is biased in favor of Obama and against McCain. The media now represents a fifth column of government - a propaganda wing - that attacks conservatives and celebrates and defends Democrats. Democracy is going extinct in the country that founded it, because no free society can survive a climate of propaganda.

The only way that America can turn around given the propaganda-dominated culture is if the media is utterly discredited, and Democrats lead the nation into calamity and despair. It can happen in two ways:

The US economy - and in fact the world economy - are facing a crisis. And while leftist media propaganda may be assuring you that Obama will be better for the economy, our investors and our business leaders most assuredly do not agree at all. "Over 70% of CEOs fear an Obama presidency will be a disaster." And the financial market - which is already selling off in expectation of an Obama win - would face a "dramatic sell-off on Wall Street" if Democrats make the huge gains they are anticipated to win. Wall Street is terrified of an Obama presidency. Obama's radicalism and socialistic redistribution policies, his doomed-to-fail massive health care plan, his steadfast refusal to exploit our domestic oil resources in favor of "alternative energy" sources that can't possibly meet our energy needs, and the fact that his every move will be backed by tax-and-spend liberals hungry for power and a propagandist media - serving as apologists - will all come together to doom our economy.

Obama has promised $4.3 TRILLION in new spending, even as his tax redistribution plan is guaranteed to shrink the tax base as the wealthy shelter their assets. Where are we going to get all that money? Democrats believe their messiah can turn water into money. But the people will ultimately come to see that they are wrong. And no amount of media propaganda will ultimately be able to hide that reality.

I wonder what will happen when Americans discover that Democrats want to socialize their 401Ks?

The second way that America will recognize that they've been lied to by both Democrats and their media propaganda is if we are attacked again.

Personally, if Obama is elected to the White House, I would like to see conservatives leaving military service the way rats might leave a sinking ship. Let them determine that they will not fight for God Damn America and leave the military in droves. Let Democrats do all the fighting and suffering sacrificing and dying (or at least all the cutting and running that they prefer to fighting) for the next few years. When 70% of the military is composed of McCain-supporting conservatives, something needs to change under a Commander-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama. Joe Biden - the foreign policy "expert" on the ticket - flat-out guaranteed that Obama would be tested with an international crisis in the first six months of his Presidency. Let the people who voted for him do all the dying for him, too. That only seems fair. I earlier suggested that we have a "Gay All The Way!" military.

The country that so totally rejects conservatives certainly doesn't need their help. At this point - with the voters demanding complete Democratic domination - building up country amounts to tearing down the conservative vision for the country.

We have totally turned Iraq around in the last couple years, but that is only because President Bush and his commanders in the filed refused to listen while the Democratic Senate Majority Leader proclaimed defeat, while Barack Obama vigorously opposed the surge that allowed us to finally gain the upper hand in the first place, with Democrats claiming that President Bush lied about Iraq from the outset, and with too many Democrats loudly and publicly calling our soldiers war criminals and Nazis. Let's see how President Obama fares against Iran. Let's see what happens when - as I believe - Israel attacks Iran to try to destroy its nuclear program because they don't believe that the United States under President Obama will do anything.

When a weak, passive, appeasing Barack Obama allows Iran to develop nuclear weapons (because only the assurance of a massive attack will stop them at this point), they will be coming after the Great Satan both directly and indirectly through terrorist proxies - and be able to threaten a few mushroom clouds should the Great Satan directly threaten them in return. That won't look so good to the electorate, who will suddenly fondly remember that the Bush Presidency had actually managed to protect them from terrorist attacks. But I will be loudly quoting Jeremiah Wright and how "America's chickens are coming home to roost."

We are one major terrorist attack - just ONE - away from an America that overwhelmingly realizes that Barack Hissein Obama is UNFIT to lead this country. Don't think for one nanosecond that the same fickle electorate that rejected Bush won't reject Obama. One attack, and they will remember all the many ways that Democrats left this country vulnerable to terrorism.

I believe that if the country wants to hop aboard a freight train that's going to steam full speed off a cliff, then Republicans - if they're smart - ought to get as much out of the way as they possibly can and be ready to pick up the pieces after the dust settles. Vote against everything so its on the official record, but let the Democrats hang themselves. If Republicans finally decide to be as cynical as Democrats have been for years, they might even consider doing everything possible behind the scenes to sow havoc and discord both in domestic and international policy, so they can then turn around and blame the Democrats' "failed policies" just like the Democrats did to them. You can hardly blame them, once you get past that whole "But that would be un-American!" thing. After all, that hardly stopped Democrats, and they've benefited mightily from doing it. I mean, you've got Democrats agreeing with Republicans on the need to remove Saddam Hussein, only to despicably turn on them the moment it was to their advantage to do so. You've got Charles Rangel comparing the US action in Iraq to the Holocaust; you've got Dick Durbin comparing American troops to Nazis; you've got Barack Obama suggesting that our troops have to do more than just air raiding villages and killing civilians. You've got Democrats accusing innocent Marines of being murdering war criminals; you've got Democrats declaring defeat in Iraq while our troops were fighting in the field; you've got Democrats acknowledging that good news in Iraq was bad news for Democrats; you've got Democrats opposing the surge strategy that brought us to victory; you've got Democrats falling all over themselves to support the reasons for going to war against Iraq before they fell all over themselves to attack Republicans for going to war against Iraq. If the American people approve of and vote for that kind of conduct, why shouldn't Republicans look at the polls and follow suit?

Yes, in the short run, the Democrats would pass the fascist "Fairness Doctrine" to muzzle all opposition speech and run so completely wild on social godlessness that they will make decent peoples' skin crawl. But when they poison the nation against themselves do to their own rabid excesses - or if there is another major terrorist attack given the likely Democrat's repeal of the Patriot Act, domestic surveillance of terrorists, the abandonment of Gitmo and its detention of our terrorist enemies, and their overall perception by terrorists as weakling cowardly retreating appeasers ripe for attack - there will be a conservative victory in two years that will be like nothing ever seen. The only way Democrats can be seen as the incompetent fools they truly are is if they are actually allowed to run everything and they have no one to blame for the disaster but themselves.

Until then, I'm just going to spend the next four years reciting Democratic talking points: our country is evil; our President is evil; our soldiers are evil. God damn America, also known as the U.S. of KKK A. We're immoral for doing every damn thing we do; Obama lied, people died. That sort of thing.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Politics; Reference
KEYWORDS: democrats; goddamnamerica; obama; president
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1 posted on 11/02/2008 4:05:37 PM PST by Michael Eden
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To: Michael Eden
Obama lied, people died

LOL, now thats funny, possibly true, but funny

2 posted on 11/02/2008 4:08:24 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude (.)(.)
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To: Michael Eden

I’d prefer they didn’t. It would already take us decades to unscrew four years of a Hussein obama administration.


3 posted on 11/02/2008 4:08:42 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: Michael Eden

stupid question. Of course not!


4 posted on 11/02/2008 4:08:46 PM PST by Ikemeister
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To: Michael Eden

Civil disobedience, too.


5 posted on 11/02/2008 4:10:06 PM PST by oblomov
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To: Michael Eden

I want to see the Obamedia and their RINO comrades all crying in their Tofu come Wednesday morning.


6 posted on 11/02/2008 4:11:23 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: Michael Eden

No.


7 posted on 11/02/2008 4:12:24 PM PST by jwalsh07 (It's the Marxism Stupid!)
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To: Michael Eden

Obama won’t win.


8 posted on 11/02/2008 4:13:30 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Michael Eden

No. It’s a stupid thought uttered, I suspect, by somebody who doesn’t understand or lived through one party rule. Once entrenched it takes either many, many years or a cataclysmic event ot root them out for a vraiety of reasons. The less rats the better. Always.


9 posted on 11/02/2008 4:14:06 PM PST by jwalsh07 (It's the Marxism Stupid!)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

wrote:
“Obama lied, people died

LOL, now thats funny, possibly true, but funny”

Not funny to me. Someone very, VERY dear to me is set to leave the National Guard in February. For the first 2 years, they can call him back. I PRAY he doesn’t have to go back under Obama. Oh LORD, please, NO!


10 posted on 11/02/2008 4:16:21 PM PST by Lenora
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To: Michael Eden

I purchased a fine pair of gloves and a pair of utility pants from Blackhawk.com. They sent me a beautiful American flag which now sits folded on our mantle. Should Obama win I am considering flying it upside down for all to see. Maybe the thought police will come after me.


11 posted on 11/02/2008 4:18:53 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Michael Eden
Obama is going to lose big.

That's even better!

12 posted on 11/02/2008 4:19:33 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: Michael Eden

The media got Dewey vs Truman (who had 23% approval ratings) wrong too.

They clearly are in the tank for Obama this season. As some were in the tank for Kerry in 2004. And some were in the tank for Gore in 2000...

What was done wrong? Permitting the primary process to be hijacked by Democrats this year. 2 states’ didn’t have a presidential primary (Michigan and Florida) and that gave the Democrats an opportunity to “Cross over” to still have a say in the presidential nomination. Also several open primary states lead the primary season. Also Howard Dean staffers were on the McCain 2008 campaign starting in 2006. Even this year some McCain Democrats left his staff to go work for Obama AFTER their job of securing him the GOP nomination was acheived.

Funny thing is that McCain was LIKED by Democrats in the past so it still leaves him open to their support. And while the savage beasts in the media tried to tear Sarah Palin apart with yellow journalist concocted scandals, she is POPULAR with Americans.

So even with a moderate at the top of the ticket and a conservation on the bottom, both conservatives and moderates are willing to vote for McCain-Palin. They also stand a chance at getting PUMA crossovers who didn’t like the way the DNC treated Hillary’s campaign (Joe Lieberman GOT a better shake from the DNC when they ran him off).


13 posted on 11/02/2008 4:20:35 PM PST by weegee (Global Climate Change? Fight Global Socialist CHANGE. vote NO on Obama-Biden.)
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To: Michael Eden

bookmark


14 posted on 11/02/2008 4:21:52 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Michael Eden
Obviously not. If they have total control, they have total control of the spin machine. And the only thing DemoRATs care about is having control. Has it been that long ago that we were treated to the news conferences of Gephart and Daschle holding their pathetic muffler while whining about Bush's tax cuts for the rich? Well, when the unholy trifecta has power, conservatives are going to be beat up daily, and America will likely never recover. With Obama in the white house, we'll be lucky if Iran only nukes Israel instead of NYC. Obama, would of course, quickly ask the UN for sanctions, but they'd be busy.
15 posted on 11/02/2008 4:22:21 PM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Never argue with an idiot, they always wear you down and beat you with experience)
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To: Michael Eden
If Obama wins and the Dems win big in congress, let the Socialists take full charge. After two years, American will experience first hand what “change” means. Those of us who lived through the Carter term have some idea just how bad it will be. Obama will never be My president.
16 posted on 11/02/2008 4:26:30 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: Ikemeister

“stupid question. Of course not”

Here! Here! I want them to claw and scratch for every vote and have every fraudulent vote wretched from their grubby little hands. I mean that in a good way.


17 posted on 11/02/2008 4:27:38 PM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: Lenora

OK, let me explain:

*The dems have been using that line for a while now.

* Now it is turned around and fired right back at them.

I think thats funny, they get shot at with their own ammo.


18 posted on 11/02/2008 4:28:15 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude (.)(.)
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To: Michael Eden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U9btB8FSPA

And...

http://patriotroom.com/?p=3739

19 posted on 11/02/2008 4:28:49 PM PST by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: jwalsh07

I don’t see how it’s a stupid thought. But I’m actually glad that many people disagree with me.

I DID live through one-party rule, but as a kid too young to know what happened. But if the country votes for Obama, it isn’t ME that’s being stupid; it’s the NATION. A vote for Obama IS a vote for one party rule, given that Pelosi and Reid will still be in power.

I think that one other thing makes this even worse than the precedent of 1-party rule in 1964: the media. It is more dishonest, and more corrupt, and more biased, than ever. And it is a propaganda wing of the DNC and the Obama campaign.

If you read my whole article - and I don’t blame you for NOT doing so - you will see that I argue that only an economic calamity or a major terrorist attack (or war) will turn people against Democrats. Otherwise, any success the country has will only justify more and more Democratic rule.

That’s why I can’t help but want the country to experience it’s just desserts for voting for 1-party domination so that their stupidity can be crushed out of them in a way not even the media can explain away!


20 posted on 11/03/2008 7:39:27 PM PST by Michael Eden
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