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Election 2008: There Will Be Blood
Nietzsche is Dead ^ | 1 Nov 08 | foutsc

Posted on 11/01/2008 3:01:40 PM PDT by foutsc

Voter fraud and rumors of voter fraud... No matter who gets elected, we're looking at post-election violence. I'm not talking a few fistfights, I'm talking nationwide Detroit wins the World Series rioting. Rampaging partisans torching buildings and turning over cars, either in anger or in celebration...

Charges of election stealing will fill the air like clouds of angry hornets. Yes, whoever is elected will be immediately and permanently delegitimized by half the population. And that's a shame because a few simple changes in voter registration laws and voting procedures could have prevented it all, but partisan bickering and billion dollar solutions somehow got in the way.

John Fund has been a lone voice in the wilderness, crying out for reform of our voting laws.

A new federal mandate requires that all voters be allowed to cast a provisional ballot if their names don’t appear on registration lists. Liberal groups are suing to have such ballots counted even if they are cast in precincts where the voter doesn’t live. ... Candidates may have to hope their vote totals are beyond the “margin of litigation.”

The issue of photo ID has become symbolic of the clash of values on election standards. Supporters say it is bizarre that most states don’t require a photo ID to vote, at a time when one is needed to buy an airline ticket, rent a video or cash a check. A Rasmussen Research poll found 82 percent of Americans believed voters should show photo ID, including 70 percent of Obama voters. But liberal groups insist that even laws that allow voters to use a paycheck or utility bill as ID discriminate against minority voters and could lead to “profiling.”

But when voters are disfranchised by the counting of improperly cast ballots or outright fraud, their civil rights are violated just as surely as if they were prevented from voting. The integrity of the ballot box is just as important to the credibility of elections as access to it.

Our stupid, bloated federal and state governments can't even do elections right. And it's been eight years since the Election 2000 Theater of the Absurd in Florida. Do you really think this election will be any different?


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: election; emergencyresponse; violence; voterfraud
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1 posted on 11/01/2008 3:01:41 PM PDT by foutsc
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To: foutsc

If I lived in Chicago, Detroit or any other city (which FREEPERS do I believe)...I would leave and stay in a hotel for a few days. I think it would be dangerous to stick around. I pray that FREEPERS who live in large cities are safe and in God’s arms during these coming days.


2 posted on 11/01/2008 3:03:45 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: foutsc

I seriously doubt there will be any extensive violence. A few people may get carried away for whatever reason, but I think the overwhelming majority of people have more common sense.


3 posted on 11/01/2008 3:05:55 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Obama is a neo-Marxist)
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To: All

OPINION:

I disagree.

I do not believe there will be wide-spread riots.

If Obama wins, the fist of political correctness will be one of the tools to suppress the polite (Conservatives, Conservative Christians, Conservative Jews) masses.

If McCain wins, there may be pockets of liberal hysteronics and possible small local area disturbances which law enforcement will deal with quickly.

~

Off Topic: Jihadis are always probing for weakness no matter who wins.


4 posted on 11/01/2008 3:08:33 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: foutsc

I hope all the hyperbole about rioting makes riots less likely, myself. Some leftist hotheads apparently believe that holding this threat over the heads of voters will help get their Manchurian Candidate elected. I believe the opposite to be true.

We shall see.


5 posted on 11/01/2008 3:13:03 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: popdonnelly; Cindy

I hope both of you are right and I am wrong. The Obama fervor out there reminds me of the Twelver Shia in Souther Iraq who whip themselves into an ecstatic frenzy in anticipation of the Hidden Imam.


6 posted on 11/01/2008 3:13:58 PM PDT by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: foutsc

It is scary. Yesterday, at our post office in our little town, where everyone has always got along, a friend of mine was speaking to her cousin about hunting and made a comment that her husband had some guns he needed to get rid of. Her cousin said, oh, don’t get rid of them, you never know when you might need them. And went on to say that when the grandsons got older they may get into hunting and appreciate having their grandad’s guns. A black woman standing there made an ugly comment. (Keep in mind this post office is really SMALL!) Then proceeded to tell my friend and her cousin, yeah, I meant for you to hear that, you white m*****f*****!! I was appalled!!!!


7 posted on 11/01/2008 3:20:37 PM PDT by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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To: foutsc

“Senator...we drink your milkshake! We drink it up!”


8 posted on 11/01/2008 3:23:35 PM PDT by RichInOC (McCain/Palin '08: You Called Down The Thunder...Well, Now You Got A Cat 5 Hurricane.)
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To: foutsc
Right. Republicans are going to steal the election. About 95% of election officials, election offices, etc. are controlled by dimocrats. Thus, if something is screwed up, they need to set fire to the DNC HQ bldg. I point to the Florida crap of 2000. The person MAKING UP THE BALLOT was a dimocrat and that office was run by a dimocrat, and the chad thing was a dimocrat selection, yet REPUBLICANS were blamed for the problems and of course the stupid republicans did little to point the finger at the dims for it.
9 posted on 11/01/2008 3:23:39 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Remember the Dims support what Stalin said: Not who votes, but WHO COUNTS the vote that matters.)
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To: foutsc
Election 2008: There Will Be Blood

Not a bad movie, and given the current drilling controversy, it might be an apt movie tie-in for the endless campaign.

Personally, I still think "The Manchurian Candidate" (Frank Sinatra version) better describes the long national nightmare.

10 posted on 11/01/2008 3:29:32 PM PDT by ssaftler (Documentaries about the 2008 election: "The Manchurian Candidate" and "Idiocracy")
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To: Cindy
i hope you are right, but i think we will see a lot of rioting in major cities. think back to rodney king. not big riots there, but they were destructive. imagine with the cult like followers of obama? he has been stirring the “racist” pot for 2 years now and when he loses it will boil over. think odinga and what happened when he lost. sorry i want to be optimistic, but history tells another story.

for those libs that want blood:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKOOV1LbC3M

11 posted on 11/01/2008 3:42:56 PM PDT by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: fishergirl
I was at a small post office a month or two ago and a young Hispanic man felt slighted by the middle aged white man in front of him. When the Hispanic man got up to the counter, he announced loudly to the clerk that he had been disrespected by the white man and that he was going to kill two white people before he died. He repeated loudly, “I swear I am going to kill two white people before I die and it's on that guy's head.” The Vietnamese clerk said, “Don't say that, sir.” Then the man did his transaction and left, giving those of us in line a malevolent stare.

Needless to say, those of us in line who were white, and patiently waiting, felt a bit “disenfranchised.”

There's a lot of haters out there. {sigh}

12 posted on 11/01/2008 3:46:13 PM PDT by Melian
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To: fishergirl

Having grown up in a small southern town with ongoing racial tensions in the H.S., I can totally believe that story!


13 posted on 11/01/2008 3:50:13 PM PDT by a real Sheila (Obama lied and my 401K died!)
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To: CanadianMusherinMI

History is important.

After 9/11 those who protect and serve in the USA (leos, alphabets and our military) have learned a lot as to how to deal with emergencies (both manmade and natural).

‘Nuff said.


14 posted on 11/01/2008 3:56:46 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: foutsc

I believe the odds are big that a McCain Victory will spark a wave of violence all over the nation. Even a Obama win will cause some limited violence. Lets hope I am wrong. But its best to be ready.


15 posted on 11/01/2008 4:00:13 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: foutsc

Rioters: don’t try it in my neighborhood. We roll Korean-style around here. Nowhuddamean, dawg?


16 posted on 11/01/2008 4:03:13 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: foutsc

We have also been concerned about this. To look at this logically,

1. Obama is a Marxist who helped his cousin Odinga to run in an election in Kenya in 2006. When the Marxists lost the election, there was massive bloodshed, with many killed and hundreds of churches burned- FOR POLITICAL PROFIT. Odinga ended up with a powerful job.

2. In 2007, Communists in Mexico lost the election. They then yelled “fraud” and rioted, destroying much, and leaving a government which is still dealing with a strengthened and intimidating criminal population.

3. Obama has a huge ego and NO concern for the sanctity of human life, as seen by his extreme views of abortion and infanticide. He is friends with Rev. Wright and other preachers who teach racial violence- and would enthusiastically urge on their followers. Obama worked with Louis Farrakhan on the “Million man march”, and had his picture taken with the black muslim leader. If Obama chose to incite violence, these and his Acorn groups would likely respond, as well as others.

We don’t think that fear is the right reaction, but prayer and preparedness certainly is.


17 posted on 11/01/2008 4:08:00 PM PDT by stcromwell99
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To: RetiredArmy
Right. Republicans are going to steal the election.

Of course, I'm not saying that. I agree with you. But if Mac beats the messiah that will be the cry.

And that's my point. If out stupid, inept government officials could actually do something so basic as conduct a straight-up election, this wouldn't be an issue.

18 posted on 11/01/2008 4:09:12 PM PDT by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: foutsc
If McCain wins in a close vote, say one state with a small margin, or wins the EV but loses the popular, I would hope that we don't see a repeat of the Rodney King riots.

I'm almost afraid to see what will happen in school the following day.

19 posted on 11/01/2008 4:18:57 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter. Before the late bell. When I close the door.)
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To: foutsc

Obama could put a stop to it before it begins by asking everyone to stay calm and if he loses he’ll be back in 2012. That would stop most of it. But I don’t think he’ll do it. He’d love to see riots. As would all the dims. It would be Bush’s fault.


20 posted on 11/01/2008 4:31:26 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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