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Obama: Russia, U.S. should not 'charge into' other countries
Reuters blog via Little Green Footballs ^ | 8/21/08 | Jeff Mason

Posted on 08/21/2008 10:47:10 AM PDT by zimfam007

"Democrat Barack Obama scolded Russia....for invading another country’s sovereign territory while adding....the United States, should set a better example on that front, too...."

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cicobama; elections; foreignpolicy; georgia; nobama08; notreadyforprimetime; obama; obamatruthfile; russia
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1 posted on 08/21/2008 10:47:10 AM PDT by zimfam007
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2 posted on 08/21/2008 10:47:26 AM PDT by zimfam007 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: zimfam007

Obama, you traitor go to hell.


3 posted on 08/21/2008 10:47:58 AM PDT by SolidWood (God Bless Georgia and grant them victory over Russia!)
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To: zimfam007

stfu Obama


4 posted on 08/21/2008 10:49:28 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: zimfam007

Keep digging, Barry.

What a nimrod.


5 posted on 08/21/2008 10:50:34 AM PDT by auboy (Men who cannot deceive others are very often successful at deceiving themselves. Samuel Johnson)
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Obama: Russia, U.S. should not 'charge into' other countries

After the pummeling that John McCain's going to give him on November 4th, this Obama jerk won't be able to stand up for at least a week...

6 posted on 08/21/2008 10:51:01 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: zimfam007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxiG56M-eU

Obama’s Soviet Anthem.


7 posted on 08/21/2008 10:52:12 AM PDT by roses of sharon (SAVE YOUR GAS RECIEPTS, SEND TO PELOSI!)
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To: zimfam007

Tell me, Mr. Obama, how many U.N. resolutions were the Republic of Georgia in violation of before Russia “charged in”?


8 posted on 08/21/2008 10:52:53 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam ... If you can't join them, beat them.)
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To: zimfam007

Anti-American SOB


9 posted on 08/21/2008 10:53:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: zimfam007

The inevitable moral equivalency from what is turning out to be one of the dimmest bulbs in politics. Now what was it General Obama wanted to do in Pakistan again?


10 posted on 08/21/2008 10:55:55 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: zimfam007

Who’s responsible for:

Islamic was against America - Jimmy Carter
Bosnia (on the wrong side, no less) - Bill Clinton
Vietnam - Started by Kennedy
Bungled by Johnson
Almost saved by Nixon
Thrown away by a Democrat Congress
Korea - Truman (How’s that one going, by the way?)

I don’t think any Democrat should be allowed to even mention that there are other countries in the world, much less make decisions regarding them.


11 posted on 08/21/2008 10:57:04 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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12 posted on 08/21/2008 10:57:30 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (All grey areas are fabrications.)
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To: zimfam007

And people want this guy to be our President?

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity.”


13 posted on 08/21/2008 10:58:19 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (When you are arguing with a fool, make sure he isnt doing the same thing.)
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To: zimfam007

Great job, Obama. Compare the actions of a humanitarian U.S. bringing freedom to millions of people to the imperialist expansionism of Russia.

What an a$$!


14 posted on 08/21/2008 10:59:11 AM PDT by KansasGirl ( b/c Obama is just creepy.)
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To: zimfam007

I see some introdcutions are in order.
Barry, meet Reality; Reality meet Barry.
You two talk amongst yourselves - you have a lot of catching up to do.


15 posted on 08/21/2008 11:04:22 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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adding....the United States, should set a better example on that front, too....”

Obama always kicks the U.S.A. at the end of everything he says....Good luck jackass in the election!


16 posted on 08/21/2008 11:05:50 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: zimfam007

I thought it was satire at first.


17 posted on 08/21/2008 11:07:16 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Right Cal Gal

Barry and reality are diametrically opposed. There will be no conversations there.


18 posted on 08/21/2008 11:08:54 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: zimfam007

So what side is messiah Hussein Obama on? Oh yeah, his own little world of happy little people...in his head.


19 posted on 08/21/2008 11:10:40 AM PDT by Karliner ("Things are more like they are now than they ever were before. DDE)
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To: zimfam007; SolidWood; SpinnerWebb; Billthedrill; KansasGirl

To quote Ronald Reagan, “There he goes again”, so here is my post on the subject again. I guess I’ll send it to Congress and elsewhere as long as people repeat the lie.

Despite Russian claims, no parallels exist between U.S. Iraq involvement and Russian Georgian aggression. With that and other pretexts Putin unilaterally attacked into Georgia, after NATO membership rejection portended a flaccid response. In contrast the United States, heading a U. N. coalition exceeding that Churchill and Roosevelt assembled to confront Hitler’s Germany, toppled Hussein’s regime, forcing the U.N. to confront the reason for its’ existence.

The Iraq ceasefire ended, because Hussein materially breached international obligations defined within U.N. Resolution 687, and reaffirmed by Resolution 1441. Resolution 687 incorporated 678 and 19 previous resolutions without amendments, offering Hussein conditional ceasefire in 1991. Instead he ignored responsibilities to submit comprehensive declarations of all WMD stockpiles and programs, and missiles with greater than 150 kilometre range. He thwarted the program envisioned by menacing, eluding, and deceiving inspectors. The U.N. resorted to surveillance, analysis, and investigation to destroy material and disrupt programs, until Hussein expelled inspectors in 1998. He continued forbidden involvement in international terrorism.

Russian statements are especially egregious fabrications, because they helped draft and acquiesced to every resolution. Concerning Hussein’s responsibilities, diplomats and politicians laboriously parsed each phrase for clear focus on verbs instead of nouns, behaviors not WMD stockpiles. The key words were guarantee, reaffirm, accept, submit, declare, yield, forgo, agree, inform, comply, cooperate, lie, omit, and thwart. Concerning consequences, the U.N.’s ultimatums in Resolutions 678 and 1441 authorized disarming Hussein’s regime through military operations “to restore international peace and security in the area”, and did not instruct coalition forces to merely expel Hussein from Kuwait. U.N. precedent from the Korean War ensured the above phrase intended invasion of Iraq. The term “in the area” used phraseology, confirmed by Congress, authorizing military action above the 38th parallel to disarm North Korea. Congress ratified U.N. Iraq positions with resolutions in 1991, 1998, and 2002.

As Russian forces crossed South Ossetia into Georgia, the moment arrived for inescapable acknowledgement that Putin had revoked the Cold War armistice. Justifications contain too many parallels to Hitler’s concern for Sudeten Germans in Czechoslovakia to ascribe less than brutal motives. Extravagant armored attacks through the Greater Caucasus Mountains demonstrate traditional Russian ruling elite neurotic insecurity; neurosis requiring rival power destruction without political compromise. Genetic, multi-millennial paranoia infects the current cabal to regard NATO, former Warsaw Pack countries, and former Soviet republics as encircling enemies. Such perceptions, not shared by the Russian people, repudiate years of Western support for emerging Russian representative government, political security, and economic stability.

There can be no permanent peaceful coexistence with a totalitarian Russia, but traditional warfare is not inevitable. Illogics lead this cabal onto unacceptable paths, but these elites remain highly susceptible to logics of force accompanied by determination to use it. Forceful initiatives require immediately curtailing efforts to integrate the former Soviet Union into the economic, cultural, and political life of the Free World. Next initiatives require increasingly serious discussions of cooperation and membership between NATO, and former Warsaw Pack countries and former Soviet republics. Finally, the United States must update Cold War plans through cooperative military exercises in Europe and the Mediterranean. This country must wage war, where diplomacy uses overt and clandestine activities to exploit, contradictions, stresses, and tensions between Putin’s ruling elite, and the Russian people and countries with which he needs alliances.

Such progressive, consecutive initiatives establish constraining negotiating positions Putin must consider. Such actions must proceed inexorably, subject to adjustment only following verifiable pacific initiatives for representative government and non-belligerent relationships with neighbors. Effective containment will reveal fragility of a totalitarian rule needing solidification within a disaffected, cynical population. The West must not squander this opportunity to make cruel subjection of Georgia become Putin’s undoing.


20 posted on 08/21/2008 11:15:09 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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