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Justice Scalia Gets His Gun; SCOTUS Finds 2nd Amendment
Leibowtiz's Canticle ^ | June 26, 2008 | Leibowitz

Posted on 06/26/2008 7:24:53 AM PDT by Bob Leibowitz

In an eagerly anticipated and strongly worded decision, Justice Antonin Scalia this morning led the Supreme Court to discover and define the Second Amendment as a guarantee of an individual's right to own firearms.

In a stunning but narrow 5-4 rebuke to liberal dogma of the past 30 years, where penumbras carried more weight than words, SCOTUS has confirmed what is known as the standard view of the amendment, that it means what it says.

While the decision does not automatically expand Second Amendment protections and prohibitions to affect state laws, it will immediately change the terms by which those restrictions are debated. In the long run, it is likely that some future case will arise where the issue of "incorporation" will be decided by the Court under either the 14th Amendment or the Privilege Clause, thereby bringing the Second Amendment to a level with the First and Fourth.

The case, which reached the Court as Heller vs. The District, is a special tribute to the foresight and conviction of one man, Robert Levy. Mr. Levy, who has never owned a gun, structured and financed the case, selected the plaintiffs, recruited the lawyers and developed the strategies that led to today's decision. At leaset initially, he did so against the wishes of the pro-Scond Amendment establishment, much of which believed at the beginning of the case, before the elevation of Roberts and Alito to the Court, that the risks as too large.

As Heller gained traction, particularly after an unambiguous decision by the Appellate court overturning D.C.'s handgun ban based on a finding that it was unconstitutional, the arguments and briefs filed by the opposing camps became a treasure trove of Second Amendment scholarship that will be studied by constitutional scholars for a century.

Justice Scalia, widely regarded as the shootingest Justice, was obviously enthusiastic in his writing, defining for history the Constitution's protection of the individual's right to keep and bear arms.

RELATED LINKS: Heller Will Win in June. How Big? has a complete review of the case and more than a dozen links to its history.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; heller; judiciary; scotus; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: JohnLongIsland

Scary, isn’t it? Stevens should be impeached for his utter disregard of the basic purpose and meaning of the bill of rights, which was ALWAYS about limiting the “tools” government has to “regulate” the citizenry.


41 posted on 06/26/2008 7:50:44 AM PDT by messierhunter
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

“Bravo, they got it right. “

Yes, but scary by how close. But Scalia has now firmly established the gravitas and extended the precedent for the 21st century.

And the libs/marxists can go suck eggs.


42 posted on 06/26/2008 7:52:51 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Bob Leibowitz; sauropod
I imagine that for Justice Scalia, writing this opinion had to be the high-point of his career, something that even makes it worth tolerating Steven Breyer.
43 posted on 06/26/2008 7:53:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: JohnLongIsland

“Is it me or does this prove how radically socialist and totalitarian the left wing members of SCOTUS are? “

No, I had the exact reaction as you. And I don’t even own or plan to own a gun.
But I absolutely defend the right to do so.


44 posted on 06/26/2008 7:54:56 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

No, all the decisions have been following a consistent theme, the government has to follow the rules.

It’s just that some rules we like more than others.


45 posted on 06/26/2008 7:56:41 AM PDT by Philly Nomad
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To: Bob Leibowitz
Who does Kennedy think he is - King Solomon?

Anyway, if he is splitting these votes to make both sides happy, we need to thank God he threw this one to our way.

46 posted on 06/26/2008 7:57:36 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: JohnLongIsland

Well, yes Justice Stevens, that is exactly what our framers intended.


47 posted on 06/26/2008 7:57:42 AM PDT by waxer1 (What exactly is meant by "we are going to take our country back")
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To: Bob Leibowitz
Woo Hoo! Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition. I'm going target shooting in my back yard to celebrate. LOL
48 posted on 06/26/2008 7:58:08 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (If you need help, ask God. If you don*t, thank God!)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Reading some of Stevens’ dissent pisses me off mainly the part about the framers 200 years ago wanted to keep tools to restrict civilian gun ownership. Amazing some people cannot read black and white.


49 posted on 06/26/2008 7:58:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Bob Leibowitz
Thanks for the post. This is very good news indeed!

However - do not be surprised if Obama wins the presidency - that he will stack the Court. He will say there is a need to have 11 justices for some reason or another and then pack it wilt liberal-leftists until he has a majority.

50 posted on 06/26/2008 7:58:46 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Vinnie

I don’t believe that’s the angle...

Their angle is to impose their ideology, and that has nothing to do with the written word of the Constitution.

In other words, they may believe that the 2nd means what it says, but since it goes against their ideology, they’ll do whatever they can to overturn that meaning.


51 posted on 06/26/2008 7:59:58 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: seanmerc
In a stunning but narrow 5-4 rebuke to liberal dogma of the past 30 years...

Five to four - one heartbeat away - that is stunning.
52 posted on 06/26/2008 8:00:03 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Philly Nomad
No, all the decisions have been following a consistent theme, the government has to follow the rules.

There's only one think consistent about this court - the 4 to 4 split between the liberal and constructionist justices.

53 posted on 06/26/2008 8:00:30 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: JackRyanCIA
It's already too late. America was mortally wounded in the 60s, all we can do is prolong the death throes as long as possible.

Although, if we fixed the immigration problem right, got rid of birth-right citizenship, we could possibly prolong it for your lifetime and mine.

Vote for McCain. He's not good, but he's the best we've got. Which nicely demonstrates what is wrong with America.

54 posted on 06/26/2008 8:00:34 AM PDT by chesley ( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
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To: messierhunter

“Liberals have NOTHING but contempt for anyone who wishes to “

take care of himself and be responsible for himself and his family.


55 posted on 06/26/2008 8:01:30 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: romanesq

The fact that it was so close is surprising considering the impression many came away with during the oral argument and questioning - supposedly even Ginsburg seemed amenable to striking down the ban.

It does show how important it is that we keep Nobamasiah and a Democrat controlled Congress away from judicial appointments. If this clown is elected in November and Dems control the Senate, look for Stevens to step down and Hussein to appoint a Ginsburg like replacement. At least I believe McCain will appoint a justice that will uphold the 2nd Amendment, since he signed an amicus brief in support of Heller.


56 posted on 06/26/2008 8:01:48 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: Big_Harry
This election is all about the next supreme court justices. These 5-4 decisions need a majority with American values and no constructionism.

Obama Hussein will commit the next two generations to judicial hell that I can only imagine with dread.

57 posted on 06/26/2008 8:03:01 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: messierhunter
5-4 in our favor, we weren't just lucky, this was divine intervention of a near disaster

I know _I_ was praying, and I do feel the hand of God in this, including the narrow decision.

How many FReepers have you seen that have decided to support McCain because of the implications of a 5-4 decision? I've seen a bunch.

58 posted on 06/26/2008 8:03:12 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: skeeter

The Supreme Court is a joke anymore. It’s basically just another house of Congress, with rulings continually coming down on ‘party lines’.


59 posted on 06/26/2008 8:03:20 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: Resolute Conservative
And JUSTICE STEVENS is dead wrong to think that the right to petition is “primarily collective in nature.”

Scalia pwns Stevens!!! And Stevens evidentally never read up on what happened on April 19, 1775. Thank God that it wasn't only the organized militia that had guns that day or we'd still be subjects of the Crown.

60 posted on 06/26/2008 8:03:51 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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