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Outcry after French court rules on virginity
The Virginian ^ | 6/4/2008 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 06/04/2008 6:24:32 PM PDT by moneyrunner

Breibart has a story about a bride who lied about her virginity and her husband who wanted the marriage annulled when he found out she was not. The big deal? They were both Muslims and that particular religion sets great store by women's virginity before marriage. In fact, it sets great store by virginity, period. Men who die during jihad are promised 72 virgins in the afterlife. Apparently, in the Muslim afterlife the 72 virgins have their virginity restored so that the supply of virgins never runs dry.

The French are now in an uproar and demanding to have the annulment reversed.

The bride said she was a virgin. When her new husband discovered that was a lie, he went to court to annul the marriage—and a French judge agreed. The ruling ending the Muslim couple's union has stunned France and raised concerns the country's much-cherished secular values are losing ground to religious traditions from its fast-growing immigrant communities.

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TOPICS: Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: cheeseeating; france; islamicimperialism; islamiclaw; muslim; surrednermonkeys; virginity
This is a rather amazing turn of events. Apparently roaming gangs of masked young Muslims torching cars in Paris are not worth getting upset about. But virginity? That is an outrage!
1 posted on 06/04/2008 6:26:05 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner

Hey You Stupid french!

Say Goodbye to your Country!!!

wave Bye Bye! to your culture!!!

You Stupid French Idiots.


2 posted on 06/04/2008 6:36:02 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: moneyrunner

I cannot get past the words ‘French’ and ‘virginity’ in the same headline.....:o


3 posted on 06/04/2008 6:48:42 PM PDT by BossLady ("People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own soul" - Carl Jung)
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To: LtKerst
Well, they still have their wine.....
if the muslims have it their way, the French won't have that for much longer....
Than you might see the French get angry, until than, like some Americans after 911, they are in snooze mode.
4 posted on 06/04/2008 6:48:50 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (911 Republican)
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To: All

France will again be the example to the world of how to fail. If we have to have a culture totally removed from the face of the earth, why not the French? They will serve as a lesson to the world on how not to handle you immigration policy.


5 posted on 06/04/2008 6:55:49 PM PDT by texan75010
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To: moneyrunner

You nailed it! Animals roaming the streets unchecked, looting and burning, affect the French not a whit...but attack the French national savoir faire (Mon Dieu! This medieval barbarian is insisting on waving the bloody bridal sheet!), and convict National Treasure BB of anti-Muslim hate crimes, and the French will find themselves revolting!*

*double entendre fully intended


6 posted on 06/04/2008 7:35:55 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (When you're racing...it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.)
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To: BossLady

Only if French is followed by Muslim. And enforced by veiling and honor killing.


7 posted on 06/04/2008 7:36:58 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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To: moneyrunner

Hmm, yes, the French really picked an odd place to plant their flag so to speak. I don’t think lying to your husband about your promiscuous past is really a great way to start off a marriage no matter what your religion is. Divorce is legal in France anyway so why don’t they worry about some of the violence and bigotry the Muslim immigrants are bringing in and stop getting so upset that some guy was mad at his lying wife? At least he didn’t murder her like some of those crazy Muslims.


8 posted on 06/04/2008 7:37:23 PM PDT by CatherinePPP
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To: moneyrunner
What make you of the following:
13If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her,

14And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:

15Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:

16And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;

17And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.

18And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him;

19And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.

20But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel:

21Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.

Hint: it's not the Koran.
9 posted on 06/04/2008 9:19:51 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
Aren't you glad your wife and daughter did not live in old testament days?
10 posted on 06/05/2008 4:47:39 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: supercat
Hint: it's not the Koran.

Produce a case where that happened today in Christianity, not a thousand years ago.

BTW stoning an adulterous is also in the Bible. Are adulterous women still stoned today in the Christian world?

11 posted on 06/05/2008 7:40:29 AM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: supercat

Should have read, stoning an adulterous ‘woman.’


12 posted on 06/05/2008 7:41:39 AM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: processing please hold
Produce a case where that happened today in Christianity, not a thousand years ago.

Adultery used to be prosecuted as a crime in this country; today I think it is treated far too laxly. That's not to say we should enforce strictly the laws in Leviticus, but violation of marriage vows should be regarded as a serious matter, and should be penalized severely when dividing up property.

BTW, while Leviticus doesn't particularly say so, I would expect the penalty for a bride not being a virgin would only be applicable in cases where she was represented as such; otherwise certain other rules would not make sense otherwise. For example, if a man deflowers a virgin whom he has not married, her father may demand that he marry her. It would be absolutely absurd to suggest that the man could then have the woman killed for not being a virgin bride.

13 posted on 06/05/2008 6:01:47 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
Adultery used to be

No need to read farther than that.

14 posted on 06/05/2008 7:13:07 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: processing please hold
Adultery used to be... No need to read farther than that.

Are you suggesting that the moral decline of the last century is a good thing?

15 posted on 06/05/2008 8:01:22 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
Are you suggesting that the moral decline of the last century is a good thing?

You know better than that. islam STILL stones women today, you had to go back to the Old Testament to find the stoning of women being practiced.

You can't pull arguments from a thousand years ago when comparing it to islam of today.

16 posted on 06/05/2008 8:31:47 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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To: processing please hold
You know better than that. islam STILL stones women today, you had to go back to the Old Testament to find the stoning of women being practiced.

You don't have to go back that far to find significant punishments for adultery (not sure what punishments extended into the 20th Century in this country, but certainly many extended well into the 19th). While I'm not suggesting that we go all the way back to stoning, I do think that the increasing acceptance of adultery has been very harmful to society.

I don't think that complaining about Muslims' following parts of Mosaic law that Christians ignore is going to be very productive. Muslims could quite reasonably argue that if Christians aren't going to follow the law they should strike it from the Bible; if they're not going to do that, they shouldn't complain when someone else follows the law.

I think there are many better issues with which to question Islam (e.g. why was Mohamed excluded from some of the sexual laws that applied to other people; isn't that awful convenient for him?) I'm not really familiar with the Quran, but if one is going to complain about the messages therein, I would think one should focus on those which differ from the Bible.

17 posted on 06/05/2008 9:38:07 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
I do think that the increasing acceptance of adultery has been very harmful to society.

I agree, it has been. As a faithful wife of over 35 years I understand what trust and fidelity in marriage means.

if they're not going to do that, they shouldn't complain when someone else follows the law.

But murder is against the law. Both man and God's. When a women in islam is caught talking to a man who isn't related to her it's a stoning offense. That's barbaric.

I think there are many better issues with which to question Islam (e.g. why was Mohamed excluded from some of the sexual laws that applied to other people; isn't that awful convenient for him?)

He was a pedophile pure and simple.

18 posted on 06/06/2008 12:18:15 PM PDT by processing please hold ( A gov. big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have)
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