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Obama finally gets it and quits Trinity Church; DBM still in a fog, blaming it all on Fox
Public Affairs Blog ^ | May 31, 2008 | Jeff Berkowitz

Posted on 05/31/2008 8:56:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Senator Obama came to his senses yesterday and resigned from Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago’s south side. It doesn’t matter whether Rev. Wright said and did goofy things five times in the last twenty years or one hundred times in the last twenty years. It doesn’t matter that Father Pfleger (whose regular clerical stomping grounds are St. Sabina) was simply a guest of Rev. Moss delivering the guest sermon last Sunday at Trinity. It doesn’t matter if Obama was in the pews all, some or none of the times when Wright and Pfleger were spewing their venomous, hate filled, anti-American and/or racial prejudiced themes. It doesn’t matter if Wright and Pfleger have done some (or many) good things for their communities over the years.

What does matter is that Obama is running for President and the words, style and preachings of Pastor Wright and Father Pfleger, at least some of the time, are antithetical to everything for which Obama and most of this country stand. Further, it is not okay for the Church, Synagogue or Mosque of the President of the United States to welcome those who mock and degrade whites, blacks, Muslims, Christians, Jews or America. (Rev. Moss, Wright’s successor, thanked God for the “message,” and “messenger’ after Pfleger finished his sermon, last week). Our places of worship are not the same as Comedy Central (Contrary to what Monroe Anderson and MSNBC's Dan Abrams might think, see below).

Finally, Obama got this. Apparently, Senator Obama follows the saying, fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me. However, Obama is clearly a cautious man when it comes to possibly upsetting his African-American base, see, generally, here.

Larry Sabato, University of Virginia Professor of Political Science and media political pundit, being interviewed on Fox’s Beltway Boys, about four hours ago, on being informed that Senator Obama had resigned from Trinity, noted that this showed Obama was smarter than your usual pol. Sabato said most pols have to be hit over the head with a two by four three times before they get it. Obama only required two whacks (Wright and Pfleger), according to Sabato. Professor Sabato is being charitable to Obama, as the good professor apparently collapses the multiple sins of Wright into one.

To take a look at some people who don’t get it, go to Monroe Anderson (who, ironically, may have been the first to break the story; by the time the Beltway Boys confirmed the Obama resignation from Trinity, the Boys had referenced an unconfirmed report from a blog and another TV station about Obama’s resignation) and to Dan Abrams. Anderson, a contributing Chicago Sun-Times columnist who has been in and out of the MSM for the last three decades, thinks Obama’s resignation is a sign that he caves too easily to right-wing forces. MSNBC’s Dan Abrams thought Fox’s Brit Hume was hyping a relatively trivial story.[See the Abrams video link, included in a post by Anderson].

Anderson and Abrams would no doubt think that Obama’s poor showings in Ohio, West Virgina and Kentucky (almost as bad as Alan Keyes’ losses in 2004 to Obama in the Illinois U. S. Senate race) were attributable to a vast right-wing conspiracy led by Fox, a similar one- no doubt- to the one that trapped Bill Clinton in the White House with Monica Lewinsky—and no one can blame Mr. Bill for pursuing that bait, can they?

Anderson and Abrams seem to think: Why in the world would working class whites in Appalachia be put off by videos of Wright (Obama’s self-described spiritual advisor) telling America that 9/11 was her fault for tolerating America’s own acts of terrorism around the world (9/11 was America’s chickens coming home to roost, so to speak).

Of course, Rev. Wright was not the only problem Obama had in Appalachia. There were also the images of Obama declining to wear a flag lapel pin and declining to place his hand over his heart when a group Pledge of Allegiance was being recited to the U. S. flag. There was also the report of an “elitist Obama,” speaking in San Francisco about those who vote Republican because they feel a need, in tough economic times "to cling to their guns and churches," and oppose those who look different from them. (Yes, there was some bigotry, for sure, from some in Appalachia who could not vote for a Black man, but that certainly was not the whole story).

To those Obama images, about to be added was the image of Father Pfleger [until recently on the board of “Catholics for Obama,”] guest sermonizing in Obama’s Church about white collective guilt for slavery and the notion that “White Supremacy,” and white entitlement was the essence of the Hillary Clinton campaign. And, then the image of Rev. Moss, Trinity’s brand new Chief Pastor, blessing the Pfleger performance as the right “Message.”

Snap! If that wasn’t enough to persuade the Chicago Sun-Times’ Monroe Anderson and MSNBC’s Dan Abrams that Obama should leave Trinity, it was enough for Obama. Too bad for Obama he didn’t snap a little sooner. Obama knows what America and he are about. Anderson and Abrams? They don’t have a clue.

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Jeff Berkowitz, Show Host/Producer of "Public Affairs," and Executive Legal Recruiter doing legal search can be reached at JBCG@aol.com. You may watch "Public Affairs," shows with Presidential Candidates Obama, McCain, Giuliani and Cox, Next week's show in the suburbs with Comm. Forrest Claypool (D-Chicago), This week's show in the Suburbs with State Rep. Candidate Joan Solms (R-Aurora) and shows with many other pols at www.PublicAffairsTv.com

Jeff Berkowitz received his J.D. from the University of Chicago Law School (Law Review); received his M.A. from the University of Chicago economics department and completed all requirements, except a dissertation, for a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago Economics Department, where he was a Woodrow Wilson and NDEA Fellow; and received his B.A. from UCLA (Phi Beta Kappa and Magna Cum Laude).


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Politics; Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 2008; drivebymedia; election; elections; media; obama; pastoreruptions; pfleger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many died in WWII? ( Just wondering)


21 posted on 05/31/2008 9:53:45 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think you may have misunderstood my correction. What Phleger is arguing is that American whites bear blood guilt for slavery, which means the guilt is passed in the blood from generation to generation. His argument is akin to the anti-semitic argument that every Jew that is born bears blood guilt for the death of Jesus.


22 posted on 05/31/2008 9:55:04 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: wintertime

About 300,000 Americans died in WWII. Altogether, about 72 million people died in the war.


23 posted on 05/31/2008 10:01:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you.

That’s a lot of men dead, and a lot of women who would never get married. And...Oceans of heartache for mom’s, dad’s, and families everywhere.


24 posted on 05/31/2008 10:05:21 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's all FOX's fault his church released all these crazy ass videos!!!!!!!!!!
25 posted on 05/31/2008 10:16:29 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Ciexyz

I agree, I am sure he was doing some polling on this.


26 posted on 05/31/2008 10:16:54 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only thing he “gets” is that his handlers are telling him he has to back away from that church. His heart is still there. America beware.


27 posted on 05/31/2008 10:34:45 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess Obama’s people finally figured out there were not enough ignorant black racists, leftists and America haters to elect his racist unaccomplished and highly suspect ass into the White House....

His “resignation” from that cesspool of black racist hate and stereotypical black racist comedy — is insufficient to remove the stain.


28 posted on 05/31/2008 10:42:47 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Rocky

I agree that Hussein Obama embraces the hate, but I doubt he has ever been much of a regular at TUCC.

He doesn’t seem to go to church often(or we would constantly see the pictures), and I’m sure he won’t be in any church tomorrow. His knowledge of the Bible also doesn’t seem to indicate that he knows much about Christianity, not that it is taught at TUCC anyway.


29 posted on 05/31/2008 10:43:51 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Finally, Obama got this."

BULL! Obama acted purely out of political expediency. If he wasn't running for President he'd still be in the pews cheering this stuff with the rest of the congregation.

30 posted on 05/31/2008 10:54:03 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What does matter is that Obama is running for President and the words, style and preachings of Pastor Wright and Father Pfleger, at least some of the time, are antithetical to everything for which Obama and most of this country stand.

Bull Feathers!

What does matter is what Obama really does stand for. And to determining that, it matters a whole heck of a lot if he decided to stay and listen to such poison for 20 years.

Paying lip service is not standing for something. Watch what people actually do.

31 posted on 06/01/2008 12:22:23 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: Kackikat

It sure looks like a political move. He quit after a WHITE, CATHOLIC priest took to the podium. CLLEVER!!


32 posted on 06/01/2008 4:14:01 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is a safe guess that Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas’s focus groups and internal polls and the DNC’s show that Middle America will no longer tolerate Black Racism and Black Racist POS’s posing as ministers. Nor will they vote for a Black Racist, who hates America, Whites and real Christians and Jews.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_el_pr/obama

There is no way that Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas would have left this anti America Black Racist POS phoney church if not for the internet, Sean, Rush, U Tube and other sources of the real news.

The next target of opportunity are the longtime Anti America black and white mentors/buddies of Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas’s past and present.


33 posted on 06/01/2008 7:24:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas's Pastor Wright: "God Damn America, U.S.to Blame for 9/11")
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To: boycott

just asked Robert ‘Sheets’ Byrd.........

Wasn’t he a Klansman?


34 posted on 06/01/2008 1:13:27 PM PDT by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (Government that can do anything for you; can do anything TO you)
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To: boycott

just ask Robert ‘Sheets’ Byrd.........

Wasn’t he a Klansman?


35 posted on 06/01/2008 1:13:41 PM PDT by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (Government that can do anything for you; can do anything TO you)
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To: boycott

just ask Robert ‘Sheets’ Byrd.........

Wasn’t he a Klansman?


36 posted on 06/01/2008 1:13:49 PM PDT by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (Government that can do anything for you; can do anything TO you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Forget that it was his own theology...or he wouldn't have stayed and praised the church and the "reverend" for 20 years.

I guess that, for democrats, it's not the substance; it's the appearance.

Hey, Barry Hussein, the cow's out! Locking the barn door now won't do any good!


37 posted on 06/01/2008 1:17:33 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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To: Jeff Head
Larry Sabato, University of Virginia Professor of Political Science and media political pundit, being interviewed on Fox’s Beltway Boys, about four hours ago, on being informed that Senator Obama had resigned from Trinity, noted that this showed Obama was smarter than your usual pol. Sabato said most pols have to be hit over the head with a two by four three times before they get it. Obama only required two whacks (Wright and Pfleger), according to Sabato. Professor Sabato is being charitable to Obama, as the good professor apparently collapses the multiple sins of Wright into one.

They forgot to add that Larry Sabato is a DNC operative.

Smarter? It took over 20 years of hating whitey and 3+ months of scrutinization by the media to finally get him to quit? Smarter is hardly what I would call him.

38 posted on 06/01/2008 1:18:35 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: jamndad5

just a political ploy to appease voters.


39 posted on 06/01/2008 1:53:55 PM PDT by Kackikat ( are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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