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I have't seen a side by side comparison like this that gave weighting to a candidate's positions so I created one.
1 posted on 01/15/2008 10:37:28 AM PST by DWar
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To: DWar

Placemark. You’ve put a lot of time and thought into this, and it deserves equal consideration by readers. I’ll reserve my comments until I’ve had more time to analyze the work you’ve done. Bravo!


44 posted on 01/15/2008 11:00:28 AM PST by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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At first glance, it's obvious that your system is broken because you have rated Romney on what he says and not what he's done. That is the crux of the problem with Romney. He has not earned anyone's trust as a conservative because he has only governed as a moderate/liberal.

So while you obviously put a lot of work into this in an effort to prop up your man, it does not wash with those who are looking for a trusted conservative candidate.

47 posted on 01/15/2008 11:02:23 AM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: DWar
I have't seen a side by side comparison like this that gave weighting to a candidate's positions so I created one.

The results would change, of course, depending on what issues are top priority to the individual voter.

48 posted on 01/15/2008 11:02:43 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Nice work. There is one specific area of concern I wish all the candidates were questioned on as the answers could be very revealing. Birthright Citizenship is that area of concern, and specifically, as it applies to the children of parents not in our country legally.


59 posted on 01/15/2008 11:05:10 AM PST by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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It would be nice if Cutting Government Spending and Balancing the Federal Budget were included in the issues conservatives were evaluated on.


62 posted on 01/15/2008 11:06:04 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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Trouble with this post is that you don't rate Honesty or Believability. In these areas, Flip Romney scores a 0 or a 1 at best.

And your rankings of Flip on the Pro-Life and homo issues are WAY too high. He should get no better than a 5 on Life (who knows if his conversion is real), and a 1 on the homo question.
65 posted on 01/15/2008 11:07:37 AM PST by Antoninus ("Make all the promises you have to." --Mitt Romney)
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You have helped me with my decision if it were today. On My two BIGGEST ISSUES, Electability and The War On Terror, Romney looks pretty good considering that I have never really thought much about him until this thread. I Don’t care how you dress up McCain, he’s not electable, mainly because he is too much like the Democrats he would be running against. Like Huck, McCain is being pushed on us by the media because they know that neither of them can win the election.
66 posted on 01/15/2008 11:07:53 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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I have to ask what your rating on Social Security is based on? Everyone gets a 10 except Fred who is the only one with a plan to save social security.
13- Soc Sec 	Urgent 	Devastating 	Unchangeable 	10 	10 	10 	10 	10 	8

70 posted on 01/15/2008 11:08:58 AM PST by jellybean (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=dailyfread Proud Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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I’m still torn..........

Romney, having been guv of MA, cetainly endorsed left leaning issues. He’s promised to stop.

McCain makes no oppologies for his past actions including his convoluted definition of amnesty, which he says he will carry forward after securing the border. Rudy also would like a legaliztion for a large number of illegals.

Rudy may be harder on the terrorists than McCain who won’t waterboard them. Rudy admits to being a gun grabber, but swears he’ll stop if we just elect him.

Huckabee denies his unconservative positions while guv of AR and still has sympathies toward illegals.

All these fellers are flawed, some admit it and promise to change. Some are either unoppologetic, won’t admit their flaws or just plain plan to go forward with things that we conservatives don’t like.

Based on this, I’d rather have a flawed candidate who promises to change his ways.

I haven’t made my mind up yet on Romney, but he seems the least offensive based on what he promises.

McCain or Rudy will give us millions of new dem voters formerly from Mexico.


77 posted on 01/15/2008 11:13:00 AM PST by umgud (Thompson/Hunter '08)
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Excellent! Agree 100%.


80 posted on 01/15/2008 11:13:43 AM PST by Mogollon
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I had to search to find out why Duncan was not your top candidate in your first ten things...

But since it was only becaus you feel that he is unelectable, you are excused...

The only reason Duncan could be considered “unelectable” is because the conservatives are chasing after RINO’s in conservatives clothing...

This campaign for POTUS is based on fear right now

Beat Hillary has replaced...Who will be the best candidate for POTUS ???

If the Republicans keep this up we will get Hillary in the White House...either in person or in the body of a RINO...


97 posted on 01/15/2008 11:27:24 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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If Thompson isn’t the nominee, I’d vote for Romney. At least he’d use the veto pen, unlike Bush 43.

You know Huckabee would green light every tax increase and McCain would be slapping the back of Democrats so that the media would love him. So, yeah, I could vote for Romney over those two.


98 posted on 01/15/2008 11:27:43 AM PST by gunservative
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It's amazing Duncan Hunter, who scores highest as a Conservative on the totality of issues, is being treated by a Conservative website, such as Free Republic, as if he were advancing the cause of socialism. This throw the strongest Conservative under the bus attitude for the sake of expanding the voter base by appeasing those who lean to the left is precisely what has been destroying the GOP.

The same behavior occurred on the state level in Connecticut when the Republicrats abandon staunch Conservative Alan Schlesinger in his bid for Senator against Joseph LIEberman. Many Republicrats voted for LIEberman because they were more concerned about the perception of keeping a powerful Senator in Congress than advancing Conservatism. The result is another six years of a powerful Socialist Senator.

Instead of employing the defeatist hold the nose mentality those at this website should show the courage of their alleged Conservative convictions by supporting the Candidate who has most represented those Conservative ideals throughout his political career. That candidate as the record shows is Duncan Hunter.
106 posted on 01/15/2008 11:38:32 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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You left out a “Member of a cult” on your chart.


109 posted on 01/15/2008 11:42:09 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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“his wife...Rosie O’Donnell”

Bad example. In this case Ms. O’Donnell is the husband.

Your second mistake is to put electability into the list of conservative qualities. A person is as electable as the voters decide.

Thompson may be more electable than Hunter, but Hunter is more conservative. Alan Keyes is probably the only candidate more conservative than Hunter. However, he is the most unelectable candidate running.

Further, your top ten is not mine nor most conservatives. I challenge you to prove me wrong.

My top three, like most social conservatives, are abortion, family (i.e. mainly defending against the homosexual agenda), and freedom of religion (which would be 1st amendment rights).

Of these three things, I think Hunter and Huckabee are both fairly solid. But Hunter is more solid AND is conservative across the board.

Very few presidents have moral awakening during their presidency. Most have a moral base before running. Sometimes they change positions or compromise, but their moral center informs their decisions. The only exception I am fairly sure of is Lincoln, although some would debate that point.

I say this to say that... I could support Huckabee with the hope that his faith might correct some of his liberal views, but of this I have little confidence.

I could support Thompson if he pledged a firm commitment on pro-life issues including embryonic stem cell research (using federal dollars, as this is the only issue under debate).

But my first pick would be Duncan Hunter. He is a true conservative. If he was the party nominee, he would pick up pretty much all of Huckabees votes. He is electable if conservatives get behind him. If we don’t, we are not 100 conservative. Most Freepers are not, sadly.

The BIG factor to consider when it comes to electability is not charisma. The big factor is that our candidate best represents the core values of conservatism. If so, conservatives will show up and vote.

Electability should not include appeasement. That is a liberal approach. For every liberal a Republican candidate convinces to vote, two conservative votes will be lost. Many will say, “why bother... it’s more of the same”. Those with pet conservative causes will not show up because they are left out of the coalition.

The fact that Thompson is a famous actor can help build brand awareness sooner and get the word out, but that is nothing compared to the fame of getting the party nomination.

One other factor on electability. ALL of the Republican frontrunners can be easily vilified by either real or apparent scandals or by their voting record that is likely to break up a conservative coalition.

When mudslinging begins, having someone of unimpeachable character will be far more important than good looks and charisma.

I think Duncan Hunter deserves a higher mark for electability. And I know he deserves a higher mark for conservatism.

Thanks for your contribution to the forum and debate.

118 posted on 01/15/2008 11:54:24 AM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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Of course, Romney’s positions are based on his rhetoric, not his record.


124 posted on 01/15/2008 12:05:16 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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Wow, you did a lot of work, and it’s interesting to read over.

Like many here, I have a few disagreement with you, but actually not all that many. I would flip the free trade numbers upside down, since I think free trade is inherently conservative and good for us as a country. And I would quibble quite a bit with your “electability” ratings. McCain only gets a ‘10’ there if the only people allowed to vote are the media.


132 posted on 01/15/2008 12:15:01 PM PST by xjcsa (Thompson/Romney 2008)
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Why go through all of that when you can just write in the candidate you want?


145 posted on 01/15/2008 1:20:50 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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I ain’t voting for McScream, Rudi, Rummnie, Paul, Hillary, Osama Obama, Breck Girl, or the Hulkster. I ain’t holding my nose to vote because I am sick and tired of having to hold my nose to vote. If Fred or Hunter ain’t there, then I guess I have a problem. I ain’t voting for no liberals, no anti-gun, no abortion approving, no anti military, no anti war, no lying liberals. I ain’t going to hold my nose any more. That is what these RINOs are hoping we continue to do each and every election. If we keep holding our noses to vote, they will continue to slide further and further to the left and never stop. We will simply keep holding our noses. At some point you have to say enough is enough and I have reached that point. Maybe they just have to get their asses smashed a few elections and the USA see exactly what these socialist are going to do to the country, see that their big promises are not going to come true, see the damage they are doing to the economy, the deaths from terrorism, for AMERICA TO WAKE UP. I guess you have to go through hell to get to Heaven. But, I am through holding my nose. I won’t do it anymore.
148 posted on 01/15/2008 1:27:03 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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Very well thought out post. I enjoyed it. Well done, young freeper.


164 posted on 01/15/2008 2:05:25 PM PST by jmc813 (Don't screw this up, vote for Thompson.)
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