Posted on 11/06/2007 6:24:42 AM PST by Calpernia
Several weeks ago, we excoriated Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA), for his unsubstantiated claim, made during a recent Republican Presidential Debate, that "We have right now a real danger of people that are illegally in the country being rounded up, herded into the polls, we've seen that in California, voting illegally."
Multiple attempts to contact both his Presidential Campaign and Congressional office, for specifics on the allegations he was making, went unanswered. So we best-guessed, and detailed, what we believed he was likely referring to, along with our final conclusion that, barring any information to the contrary from him, he and his claims were "entirely full of shit."
But fair's fair, and we're happy to recognize the odd moments when Hunter says or does something that isn't "entirely full of shit," especially when it has to do with paper ballots.
In this case, his response to our pal Jake Soboroff, who caught up with him in Iowa to interview him for the Why Tuesday? "Candidate Challenge" concerning election reform issues, is --- of the candidates Soboroff has gotten on tape so far (more on that below) --- the only one to directly point out the need for paper ballots in American elections...
As Hunter tells Soboroff in this video here...
I'd like to end up with something that's a hard copy. That can be looked at, and whatever perforation or punch or mark was on it, you'll ultimately have two or three people decide in that little courtroom, like they did in Broward County. It's an imperfect system, but at least you'll have something in your hand, and you won't have to speculate with a bunch of numbers.
We hate to say it (no, really hate to say it), but of the candidates Soboroff has spoken to so far, Hunter's comments are the most direct and, um, correct on this point.
John Edwards --- who has spoken a bit at some appearances (when asked) about the need to get rid of electronic voting machines and requiring paper ballots --- has yet to respond to the challenge. Gov. Bill Richardson could have, and should have, bragged about his having signed a bill banning DREs and requiring paper ballots in New Mexico, but he didn't.
Of course, Dennis Kucinich has spoken directly to the point on the Peter B. Collins radio show (text and audio here), where he reiterated his withdraw of co-sponsorship for Rep. Rush Holt's Election Reform Bill (HR 811), in part, because of its failure to ban DRE voting systems. In the previous Congress, Kucinich filed legislation calling for hand-counted paper ballots in Presidential Elections. He has yet to refile the measure in the current session, however.
Beyond that, it's rather amazing how little most of the candidates that Soboroff has spoken to, seem to understand the problems of our electoral system, and how most of them seem to stammer and stutter when asked about their plans to reform it.
Other video responses, to the tenacious Soboroff's challenge --- including the amusing one in which Fred Thompson refused to talk to him --- are all linked right here.
P.S. Soboroff, who lives in L.A., and is occasionally in town, stopped by The BRAD BLOG World News Headquarters this afternoon for a sit-down with yours truly. You can look forward (or not) to the results of that, he tells us, next week, and likely again in the week after (we do go on and on, ya know.)
Duncan Hunter on Voter Fraud, ping
During these Special Orders times, he would discuss the great threats to the nation--both at home and our enemies abroad.
One of his colleagues who was a frequent participant in these discussions was Bob Dornan, who would later be victimized by Loretta Sanchez, who literally stole an election through voter fraud, using illegal voters to get the win.
Voter fraud is a pet peeve of mine. I’m fortunate enough to be in this country, the USA, only by 2nd generation removed.
Our grandmother ensured to make all of us realize what it was like to be owned and under a dictatorship.
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Vote Early, Vote Often
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Democrats cheat?
Who’da thunk?
The polls are open here in PA.
Local campaigning here in central PA has been entertaining. We're a pretty conservative area, and the Dems are having a fit because of one of the local Commissioners races.
Seems one of the requirements is that the candidate must reside in the district. His home of record, where he pays his bills and taxes, is in the district, but he lives, for the most part, with his girlfriend, who is not in the district.
Since the Dem candidate can not win by running on his policies and positions, he is attacking the Republican on this residency issue.
It's quite funny, because the local radio gal, a libertarian at heart, was ripping the Dem on his weak position.
Local politics can be fun! Vote early, vote often, indeed!
BTT!!
I voted this morning too.
PA is a nice state. We have been playing around with moving there.
Hell, I was there....The illegal aliens who voted (we got over 700 to sign affidavits AFTER the election that they had been induced to vote by Hermandad Nacional Mexicano) were the tip of the iceberg. I showed reporters from the Orange County Register and LA Times evidence that there were TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PHANTOM, NON-EXISTENT PERSONS REGISTERED TO VOTE IN BOB DORNAN’S DISTRICT, but they were not interested. The media focused on his statements about the illegal aliens voting because they wanted to paint him as rascist. That said, I forecast a massive effort to defraud our country in 2008 using illegals.
It is nearly 3 weeks old and has a whopping 10 posts.
Apparently no one cares about the massive voter fraud being perpetuated in this country. Clearly, they all think THEY will be the beneficiaries of said fraud.
Glad you found it :)
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