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The Fred Thompson Meltdown Continues
JoshuaPundit ^ | 7/30/07 | Freedom Fighter

Posted on 07/30/2007 12:59:48 PM PDT by pissant

As more and more of his potential supporters learn about Fred Thompson's choice of open borders advocate and pro-Islamist ex-senator and lobbyist Spencer Abraham as his campaign manager, Thompson's luster as th egreat GOP savior has begun to dim precipitously.

Latest to weigh in are Dymphna at Gates of Vienna, Elaine at Aaron's Rod ( who removed all the Blogs For Fred links to her site) and Deb at Right Truth.

And Michelle Malkin also did a short bit with Laura Ingraham on her national show.

As I said in my piece, no one who's serious about winning the War Against Jihad would want a tool like Abraham anywhere near him.Either Thompson was ignorant about Abraham's background, which means he lacks the judgment to be president, or he knew about it and appointed Abraham anyway...which means that no one who's serious about fighting this war or controlling the borders should remotely consider supporting him.

I think we're done with stealth candidates who talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: fred; fredlovesdhimmis; fredthompson; pissanthropy; pissyfit; thompsonhunter
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To: Clara Lou

My husband is not a wonk...he doesn’t read Free Republic, he does usually listen to Rush for at least an hour.

When he wakes up, I intend to ask him if he’s ever heard of Duncan Hunter.

I’m willing to bet the back 20 acres that he has not.

That’s Duncan’s big problem.

I’m for Fred.


301 posted on 07/30/2007 8:54:39 PM PDT by altura
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To: Sturm Ruger
reply to post #279

politico is just the latest hit machine for Rudy G....Not that they like RG, but they would rather the race be between RG and Billary...ERGO make every effort to blow Fred out....Once this feeble task is completed...politico can then work toward enlightening all of us backwater, bigoted, radical, hard, rightwing conservatives on the finer things in life....and how we are morally bankrupt...and oh so out of touch...
302 posted on 07/30/2007 8:54:47 PM PDT by Fred (Democrat Party - "The Nadir of Nihilism")
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To: Paperdoll

“But whining to campaign headquarters...”

It wasn’t a whine, it was I wanted to know where he stood. I like to find out things for myself instead of relying upon secondhand information. My primary isn’t until May, so I don’t think that will be a change unless Fred doesn’t run, but it will make a difference as to donations.

Fred gave a good interview to Sean Hannity on this very topic as Sean asked him a question about it. I liked his answer, he was right. It’s on YouTube. Hunter’s interview was also good, but Fred addressed this question in his own unique way.


303 posted on 07/30/2007 9:24:24 PM PDT by hoosierpearl (To God be the glory.)
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To: Fred

Exactly. For some reason, they all want the run to be between Rudy and Hillary.

I still can’t understand why the MSM and talk radio (Hannity) are pushing this. Someone enlighten me why they are so obsessed with Rudy ??


304 posted on 07/30/2007 9:29:16 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: altura

>When he wakes up, I intend to ask him if he’s ever heard of Duncan Hunter. I’m willing to bet the back 20 acres that he has not. That’s Duncan’s big problem. I’m for Fred.<

LOL! Another concrete and substantive reason to be for Fred. (Slowly shakes head, and walks away smiling).


305 posted on 07/30/2007 9:31:33 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: pissant
Fred Thompson's choice of open borders advocate and pro-Islamist ex-senator and lobbyist Spencer Abraham as his campaign manager

Geesh!!! The first day I heard this I said: "Oh no, this will come back to bite Fred in the butt big-time."
306 posted on 07/30/2007 9:33:13 PM PDT by no dems (Dear God, how long are you going to let Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd and John Conyers live?)
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To: hoosierpearl

As I said before, pearl, we’ve both got to do what we’ve both got to do. May the best man win. :)


307 posted on 07/30/2007 9:33:35 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Vote for Duncan Hunter in the Primaries for America's sake!)
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To: Nonstatist
What are you going to do in February after hes (Duncan) been eliminated?..Just wondering.

If Fred (whom I support) doesn't get rid of Spencer Abraham, he won't last long enough to even announce.

I've been pumped for Fred since I first heard he might run. But this was a dumbass blunder if I've ever seen one. In the 80's when the guy was State GOP Chair in Michigan, he was not well liked by Conservatives; no sir.
308 posted on 07/30/2007 9:40:03 PM PDT by no dems (Dear God, how long are you going to let Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd and John Conyers live?)
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To: pissant
>> Yep, just telling whoppers about old Fred. All the anti-freds are just liars and crooks. You Rudy T. McRomney guys all argue the same way. <<

They certainly have the same talking points down:

"Only __________ can BEAT Hillary! YOUR candidate will NEVER be elected, so you HAVE TO support OUR guy or Hillary will win!"

"Obviously, you FEAR _________" (whenever someone posts an unpleasent fact about their candidate they can't refute... see the Democrat line "You QUESTION his PATRIOTISM" for simular empty tactic)

"______________ is the MOST CONSERVATIVE person running who can crack higher than single digits!"

"This is ANOTHER shameless hit piece from the Paulites! Tell Ron it's not working!"

"That is a LIE. This organization purposely skews votes to put him in the worst possible light!" (whenever his actual voting record is posted and they can't refute it)

"He is an ALLY who agrees with us 80% of the time! There is NO perfect candidate. We have to work with what he have." (meanwhile, they visit a Jon Kyl thread and denounce Kyl as an evil RINO traitor for only voting their way 99% of the time instead of 100%)

309 posted on 07/30/2007 9:59:12 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Support the RIGHT Thompson in '08: www.tommy2008.com.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
>> I'm willing to give Fred the benefit of the doubt here. Keep in mind that Abraham rebuilt the Michigan GOP from scratch into a powerhouse in the late 80s. Even though he sucked as a Senator & bureaucrat, he's a great campaign operative. He'll give Fred the edge he needs in the Midwest states. I don't think Fred hired him for policy, if Fred's elected he's not going to be a part of his administration. Just for the duration of the campaign. I'm not happy with the pick though (Fred should have picked Pat Toomey or Michael Steele, IMO) and it does suck, but I'll wait and see what develops. <<

Abraham's obviously an open borders loon, which apprently has been a deal breaker with some people, though I don't see it as Armageddon since Abraham is not going to Fred's public policy adviser. I'm more concerned about Fred's record on immigration than his campaign staff. I also think the "Abraham is an Islamic plant" stuff is dumb when the guy is a lifelong Christian and his whole family is Christian, and he HAPPENS to be of Arabian ancestry. That's like saying all German Americans must be NAZI sympathizes, and it smacks of racism to me.

That being said, I ruled out Fred as a possibility for my primary vote months ago, and for vastly different reasons. I didn't know much about Fred, other than he was a charismatic conservative former Senator from Tenn. with a Hollywood acting career, but then I looked at his "record". Fred has many of the same traitors his supporters are constantly denouncing McCain and Romney for doing.

The crazy thing with the Fredheads is they have absolute vitorial towards any current member of the Senate who aligns themselves with McCain, so much so that they want Lindsey Graham drawn and quartered for treason, because he voted with McCain on a handful of controversial issues. Yet somehow, when it turns out Fred was just as much a McCain cheerleader when HE was in the Senate, they'd convinced themselves it doesn't matter. Fred's lifetime "conservative" voting record is to the LEFT of Graham, but somehow in their twisted Psyche, they'd decided Graham is unfit to hold a Senate seat, while Fred's "record" is just fine and dandy for being leader of the free world.

I will never figure out how they justify this position.

FREDHEAD LOGIC:
McCain's buddy #1, 91% conservative = homosexual RINO traitor, Hillary has his FBI files.
McCain's buddy #2, 86% conservative = conservative patriot, savior of the GOP, Ronald Reagan reincarnated.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

310 posted on 07/30/2007 10:16:31 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Support the RIGHT Thompson in '08: www.tommy2008.com.)
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To: Kimberly GG
Clearly doesn’t outweigh the baggage, otherwise, ya’ll wouldn’t be having to waste so much time on defense.

The fact is, the supporters of every leading candidate have to spend a lot of time on defense -- their candidates have a lot of people gunning for them. Can you think of one political candidate in history who has not had to fend off political attacks?

There's plenty of Hunter baggage out there -- just google "duncan hunter" and "corrupt" if you want to get an idea of the attacks Hunter would be fending off if he were in the lead. Hunter's a good candidate, and there are plenty of reasons to support him (depending on what your priorities are)...but implying that he isn't carrying a lot of baggage that he would have to defend were he a frontrunner is disingenuous.

311 posted on 07/30/2007 11:49:00 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: BillyZoom
Really influential blog he's got there.
Influential, or not, he produced something for the not-so-distinguished FReeper in question to throw against tFCT's wall to see if it sticks. That's his SOP.
312 posted on 07/31/2007 6:28:33 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: pissant
I didn't know 10 year-olds were running the Hunter "attack machine".

Well, your posts are really helping the Hunter campaign. Keep it up! /sarcasm off

313 posted on 07/31/2007 6:33:05 AM PDT by ConservativeTerrapin (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: rob777

“...Abraham has not been appointed to a post where he has any influence over foreign policy”

Funny argument in favor of a jihadi!


314 posted on 07/31/2007 6:35:49 AM PDT by indcons
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To: altura

my husband worked on the Hill a number of years ago. about 6 mo ago when i asked him about Duncan Hunter [i had not heard of him] he said, he’s got NO chance. i’m betting your husband hasn’t heard of him either. my brother and SIL, both conservative but not all that political, certainly have not.


315 posted on 07/31/2007 6:37:48 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: ConservativeTerrapin

Yeah, Mr. “you’re a homo”. Buzz off.


316 posted on 07/31/2007 6:48:30 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: BillyBoy

The latest is “you’re making your candidate look bad”. And they think they are doin Fred a ton of favors. LOL


317 posted on 07/31/2007 6:52:47 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: BillyZoom

er....I was just starting my 1st cup of coffee. In post #312 that was supposed to be “FDT” [really, it is] not “tFCT.” Sorry—


318 posted on 07/31/2007 6:53:36 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: pissant
Interesting...

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319 posted on 07/31/2007 6:53:56 AM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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To: Doofer

Yep, it’s interesting. Fred’s the Golden Boy...for now. Enjoy.


320 posted on 07/31/2007 6:55:19 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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