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Good Dad or Insensitive Dad?
GlennSacks.com ^ | 7/16/07 | Glenn Sacks

Posted on 07/16/2007 11:39:19 AM PDT by PercivalWalks

The strict father has been the target of much criticism over the past four decades, which is one reason why we don't have very many strict fathers around any more. (Divorce is another reason). I'm not a particular advocate of strict/hard-line parenting, and it's certainly true that the old, tough dad had his drawbacks. The best parent is one who mixes affection and discipline, who loves and is lovable but at the same time is respected and, when necessary, feared. But not all parents can do all these things, and while we might have wished that the old dad were more sensitive, he was very important, and his virtues much underappreciated.

Lately I've thought of some of my friends' fathers and the way they interacted with their sons. One of my friends in college was a man of Japanese ancestry whom we'll call Tim. Tim and his father often had conflicts--his father was hard-line, traditionally masculine, and conservative, whereas Tim was sensitive, unsure of himself, and liberal.

Tim and I were both from Los Angeles and were both away at college in Northern California. I recall one time in Tim's sophomore year he was troubled by college and where he was heading in life, and called his father, telling him he wanted to quit school. What his father told him made quite an impression on me at the time. He said:

"You're 21, right? Well, when I was 21 things were a bit different for me.

"When I was 21, I had a wife and a kid to support, no job, no education, no money, no property, and I'd just spent three years in a concentration camp. You stay there and tough it out."

Was he right or was he wrong? On one level, he was certainly correct to put his son's problems in perspective, and his son did go on to finish school and have a successful career. On the other hand, perhaps a more understanding approach would have been better--in part because of his father's hard-line attitude, he and his son remained in conflict to one degree or another for many years. Perhaps his experiences in Manzanar warped his perception of what a young person's life should be like.

On balance, I would side with the father--sometimes kids need someone to stiffen their backs and push them forward.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: fatherhood; japaneseamerican; parenting

1 posted on 07/16/2007 11:39:26 AM PDT by PercivalWalks
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To: PercivalWalks
Parenting is hard. There's no "right way" to do it.

Fathers can be strong, decisive and firm -- and can express these qualities with love, compassion and understanding. Very hard to pull off. Fathers have to try to strike a balance and hope that they come close.

I would say that erring on the side of too much firmness is better than too much understanding. Down the road, the love and understanding will likely become apparent, even if they seemed hidden when the child was young. But a child who grows up without firm direction, and with oodles of love no matter what they do -- such a child may never recover.

2 posted on 07/16/2007 11:46:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Depends on how that firmness is expressed. I’m in my mid 40s, and my father and I have a very distant relationship. This is due, mainly, to his inability to be anything other than totally right or very angry - that continues to this day. My father has said the words that he loves me, but I have no emotional connection to back up those words. So, your contention that down the road the love and understanding will become apparent has not been the case in my life.
3 posted on 07/16/2007 12:07:48 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (O Lord, destroy Islam by converting the Muslims to Christianity.)
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To: Talking_Mouse

I’m sorry to hear that. Some folks just can’t give us the things that we require. Sad for all.


4 posted on 07/16/2007 12:12:55 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: PercivalWalks; patton; Gabz
"When I was 21, I had a wife and a kid to support, no job, no education, no money, no property, and I'd just spent three years in a concentration camp. You stay there and tough it out."

Was he right or was he wrong?


i think this father overcame some very tough obstacles to be at a place in life that enabled him to put his son through college. i think he was completely right in pointing all this out to his son, despite the son's current difficulties.

i think parents work so hard so that they, and their children, can have a better life than they did when they were younger. this might even do more harm than good in the end. kids who never have to experience the hardships their parents did may tend to have a sense of entitlement. they don't have to work as hard and reap the even greater benefits.

it's a fine line being a parent who wants to help their kids to have a better life and being a parent who keeps their kid grounded and aware of what's really out there in the real world.
5 posted on 07/16/2007 2:18:23 PM PDT by leda (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: leda

It is a hard line to walk, indeed.


6 posted on 07/16/2007 2:22:15 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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