Posted on 05/13/2006 11:14:40 AM PDT by STARWISE
After telling you yesterday that all this stuff about NSA phone number farming is OLD news and in fact TWELEVE Years old, and the fact that Mr. Hagel is full of crap when he feigns ignorance and outrage (He can forget the Presidential race in 2008 - he's already anathema to the Right).
But a fact of that previous post needs repeating over and over again because it's the only way the truth will get told.
Democrats that are complaining about NSA phone number farming have no one to bitch to but themselves.
Now some of the media are bringing it out.
I picked up on this article in the New York Sun that shows again if anyone is angry at the Government, they need to get angry at the right group.
"No sooner had the man who ran the National Security Agency for years been nominated to head the CIA than USA Today rushed out details of our efforts to use technical means to find terrorists using the phones.
And no sooner had USA Today disclosed details of an apparent attempt by the National Security Agency to defend Americans from terrorists than the Democratic Party and its leading politicians and interest groups went on the attack. Not against the terrorists but against President Bush. "This is another example of the Bush Administration misleading the American people," said a spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee, Stacie Paxton.
Senator Kennedy of Massachusetts called the program "abusive" and said "Today's shocking disclosures make it more important than ever for the Republican Congress to end its complicity in the White House cover up of its massive domestic surveillance program.
When three major telephone companies are supplying the administration with records of all Americans regardless of any hint of wrongdoing, Congress can't look the other way." Rep. Harold Ford Jr., a Democrat of Tennessee, went on Fox News Channel to call the news "disturbing." Senator Clinton pronounced herself "deeply disturbed."
Mrs. Clinton might want to have a talk with her husband. It was President Clinton who signed into law the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994, after it was passed in both the House and Senate by a voice vote.
That law is an act "to make clear a telecommunications carrier's duty to cooperate in the interception of communications for law enforcement purposes, and for other purposes." The act made clear that a court order isn't the only lawful way of obtaining call information, saying, "A telecommunications carrier shall ensure that any interception of communications or access to call-identifying information effected within its switching premises can be activated only in accordance with a court order or other lawful authorization."
The law that President Clinton signed into law and that was approved by voice votes in 1994 by a Democrat-majority House and a Democrat-majority Senate not only made clear the phone companies' "duty" to cooperate, it authorized $500 million in taxpayer funds to reimburse the phone companies for equipment "enabling the government, pursuant to a court order or other lawful authorization, to access call-identifying information that is reasonably available to the carrier."
Again, the law, by referring to "other lawful authorization," states clearly that a court order isn't the only form of lawful authorization possible."
I've yet to see the AP or Reuters - reputed 'news outlets' actually report the FACTS instead of trying to invent a controversy that was no controversy TWELVE years ago. Of course el-savior was President then and in fact most of the current controversy (warrentless wiretaps and searches) originated under HIS administration.
The difference of course is Bill's was used to keep track of his enemies, and today it's used to keep us safe. That is a immutable fact and cannot be argued.
But don't look for facts from the MSM, because they are NOT a friend of the people, but only exist to manufacture the stories that fuel the fantasies that keep their fanatical readership on the left 'happy'.
Over and over again each MSM media outlet has reported that this program was Bush's program, created AFTER September 11th, which is not only patently false but blantenly dishonest. The fact is that they KNOW the truth, but refuse to PRINT the truth - thus - get ready America - they are not TELLING you the truth.
In fact because of their BDS they are incapable of doing so.
Ding ding ding
Democrats were okay with Eschelon and Carnivore which captured every phone call, every e-mail, every baby monitor (!), every ATM transaction and more, and that program is okay, pre war on terror, but this program isn't okay.
Eschelon and Carnivore information:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543118/posts?page=1#1
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1542838/posts
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543318/posts
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21387
Oops - Clinton's NSA spying program accidentally (ahem) captured a Republican's phone calls.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/1553101/posts?page=1
And just for kicks, the Commies insisted on FISA:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21453
Flashback: Gore planned to bug America:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1559386/posts
NYT called domestic surveillance a necessity when Clinton was president:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1556815/posts
This is the December 2005 NYT article which says what today's USA Today article says regarding NSA collecting phone numbers.
Clearly, Democrats (and some RINOs) have manufactured their outrage over this already reported on program. LOL
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/24/politics/24spy.html?ei=5090&en=016edb46b79bde83&ex=1293080400&pagewanted=print
That should help.
Next patient, please.
L
Hmmmm .. and when do the hearings start???
In fact because of their BDS they are incapable of doing so.
My guess is that it stands for "Bush Derangement Syndrome."
Probably so.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzhmOWI1MGE2ZTM5OTNjYmVmZjI3MzZlYWM5ZmUwZmI=
Hayden doesn’t have anything on his plate nearly as important as getting members of Congress reelected.
So if we’re going to have a national conversation about government data mining, by all means let’s have it. But let’s not just put the administration and General Hayden under the microscope.
Let’s examine the practices of the opposition that purports to find warehousing information and tracking data about American citizens to be the death-knell of liberty.
Let’s take a hard look at the elected officials who are taking a hard look at the NSA.
Here are a just a few questions we might ask Democratic-party chairman Howard Dean and the members of the judiciary and intelligence committees currently grousing for the cameras:
* Do you maintain databases of American citizens for fundraising purposes?
* Do those databases contain names, addresses, telephone numbers, e-mail addresses, and other identifying information?
* Do the databases contain information about the interests of the citizens who have been entered into them? About candidates or causes to which they have previously donated money?
* Are those databases searchable? If so, what search criteria do you use to divide these American citizens into various categories?
* Do you do targeted mailings for purposes of raising funds or pushing particular issues?
* When you target, how do you know whom to target? That is, what kind of information do you maintain in your databases to guide you about which potential donors or voters might be fruitful to tap on which particular issues?
* Do you trade information about American citizens with other politicians and organizations in the expectation that they might reciprocate and you all might mutually exploit the benefits?
I’m betting the answers to these questions might prove pretty interesting.
Hard as this may be to comprehend, we may even find that our Big Brother on Capitol Hill has been collecting information on all of us … without (gasp!) judicial warrants.
The question is, as it so often is these days, WHERE on earth is the White House PR apparatus?
I have a feeling a lot of things will be changing, now that the "Snowman" is on the scene. I've already sensed a difference .. could be Josh Bolton as well, I'm sure.
I hope you are correct........it can't happen soon enough, IMHO.
BTTT
"Bush Derangement Syndrome" is a well-known phenomenon in the United States:
I saw those weazels, Hagel and Clinton on Fox News a while ago...all puffed up in indignation over this.
I already knew (because I am a freeper) that it was Bubba that got this made legal...but, there is his witch wife out there blasting President Bush...
Also, did you see where she is calling our kids "spoiled, lazy, selfish"?????
My nephew just went to Iraq, he is selfish, Hillary???
Sorry I got OT, Starwise, I am just so angry..
Also include McCain into my disgust.
FYI BUMP
When a news junkie like me is bored by all this, can you imagine the disinterest of the public at large?
Yeah, I know what you mean. I had a thought while watching FOX News Watch today when they were talking about sexual predators in the media and the media's intense focus on them as of late, I thought to myself, I haven't heard anything out of Iraq in a long time (outsideo of the outake video of a bungling Al-Zarqawi who couldn't shoot a gun), things must be really going good.
That's a revelation ... not once have I heard one 'talker' tell the truth about what Clinton did .. I'm still waiting. Not even one "journalist" chimed in with the truth or even a Pubbie.
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