Posted on 02/16/2006 8:36:01 PM PST by zagor-te-nej
The Srebrenica operation was planned so that Bosnian Serb forces were positioned in a shape of a horseshoe, thus intentionally leaving space for the Muslim army and civilians to retreat North, North-West towards Tuzla. The distance of 36km and the configuration of the terrain are such that any man in average physical condition can cross it on foot. The military operation was conducted in this manner with the intention of minimizing the number of casualties, since the Muslims had brought in substantial military forces. If the Muslim forces had been hermetically enclosed, a violent fight would have ensued in which the army of Republika Srpska (RS) would also have suffered serious casualties. Whence the horse - shoe plan.
All this can be clearly seen on the above American map showing the withdrawal of the Muslim army. It should also be noted that no ambush was set up at Snagovo. Rather, the main contingent of the Muslim army itself planned to infiltrate into the town of Zvornik and thus create a street fighting situation for the army of RS. The clashes at Nova Kasaba in the Konjevic Field occurred due to the Muslim blockade of the main road that goes from Belgrade – to Zvornik - to Vlasenica – to Han Pijesak – to Sarajevo, i.e. to Bosnian Serb capital Pale.
(Excerpt) Read more at trajkovic.co.yu ...
Gee Hoopie, maybe he was telling the truth. Do you know what truth is? I do have to ask although, given your posts, it's clear that you avoid the truth even if you do know it.
There's Serbian courage and honor for you.
9/11 showed us Muhammedan honor, didn't it? Murdering 3000+ American civilians told us all we need to know about Muhammedan honor.
How many American lives could have been saved if NATO would have stayed out of the way and allowed the Serbs to do what needed to be done. What must be done. What will be done.
You must be hitting very close to the truth, you've got Hoopie raving.
I sort of thought so......he is easy to get worked up. The thing about the boy is that when he gets stumped, he goes back to the DOS, and seeks advice. He does his spin, does a little thinking ahead and hopes that no one does some serious research. He has a tendency of leaving out significant info....to mislead.
You have to admit that these ravings and insults are worthy of high school Civics Student. How can you take these people serious like Hoplite and frank nerd, when they behave like they were not even 21 yet......:)
Wow....I got the feeling that the DoS has employed two losers...Hoplite and F. Nerd to take me on....
Yet, their posts support our assertions that Islam is a Serious threat.......and even Australia is fighting their influence.
So, am I missing something here? :) this is beyond normal....
I never made any implications about the VRS. It is you that made the assumption, not I. When I turned the table around you in calling for the Albanian-Americans to be judged as equal in your eyes, meaning they should be held as traitors, you backed off, lightening.
Learn how to read.
The Serbian effort to gain lebensraum through ethnic cleansing had nothing to do with our War on Terror. Further, Serbia's continued sheltering of their foremost practitioner of ethnic cleansing, Ratko Mladic, is turning Serbia into a pariah nation, again.
But whatever. You just go on convincing yourself that Serbia was in the right, while the rest of the world grows ever more weary of Serbia's xenophobic ethno-racism and its perpetual victim worldview.
I never made any implications about the VRS.
Yeah, you did.
Just because you've gone through more user accounts on FR than you can keep track of doesn't mean you get to disown your previous posts, Z-man. You were either lying then, or you're lying now.
Your choice. Either way, you're a liar.
Yeah, you did. || whatever, marcus, whatever. Conjure up your grandeur fantasies. Just because you never made it beyond an Army National Guardsmen Specialist, don't take it out on us, ok? It is not my fault you were so ate up.
Besides, your man Mladic is a moot point, he is irrelevant nowadays. The Serb people don't care about him. He will be caught as it will be an internal reason for his capture. Radovan- differant story. Let him go and he will have his legacy and the people will only read about him in the story books. Your boy Slobo grandstands so he saves his own skin and hide so when people read about him, they will only remember the trial as he has his revisionist apologists planted everywhere (Sucks to be them in the end).
No, it hasn't, because the Serb version of "fighting Islam" includes rape, theft, mayhem and murder.
Talk all the trash you want, but Serbia is still in the doghouse over what it did in the 1990's, shall remain there until it starts to address that legacy.
Conjure up your grandeur fantasies.
All I've ever done on the matter of your service in the VRS is remind you of your own posts. You screwed yourself, Z-man. Nobody to blame but that dude in your mirror.
Murder is another way of saying you killed a combatent. Depends how you define murder, ehh? Your pals on the other forum say it is murder, so which LFer are you on there, Rusalka? Again, you failed to answer my questions I pose to you. Whaddya know, i found this on your site:
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Oric Video to Remain as Evidence
(TU No 440, 17-Feb-06)
Judges presiding over the trial of Srebrenica-based Bosnian army commander Naser Oric have denied the defence’s request to appeal against a decision that a controversial video interview with the accused will not be removed from evidence.
The defence complained that the interview with Oric, which was filmed by investigators from the Office of the Prosecutor in Sarajevo in April and May 2001, is unreliable because of translation flaws and inaccuracies in the English transcript. However, trial judges ruled last week that the video would still be included in the case against the accused.
Oric is charged with leading Bosnian Muslim combatants in attacks on over 50 Serb villages in eastern Bosnia in 1992 and 1993.
Yeah, yeah. And the Serbian definition of "combatant" is "Somone who got killed", regardless of whether they were under arms or even in the custody of Serbian forces at the time.
It's all just a lame Serbian argument and nobody outside of Serbia pays it any attention anymore, including me. However, if you wish to discuss the subject further, I suggest you make an appointment with your unit JAG representative so you can fully explore your feelings on the matter.
more and more evidence is being brought forward that your friends, the muslims, are being heavily recruited in Bosnia for future operations. Yet, your denial shows your love for them. Why is that?
sorry bub, I'm cleared.
You can push that agenda on these Serb apologists on this forum or on LF. That is their belief and whatnot and if I had my choice, Mladic would be caught and turned in for the sake of the world. He is fairly easy to get I imagine, try Serbian Army bases. That is where they nearly got him when I was in Serbia back in 2004. They nearly got him but the mission was compromised by dunno. Maybe you know, Marcus?
The Bosnians never made it to Afghanistan or Iraq in any significant numbers because Osama's ideology never caught on in any meaningful way - as a matter of fact, the largest contingent of Bosnians outside of Bosnia is deployed in Iraq as part of the coalition.
Enough of your nonsense for another year.
Cya.
yeah, another year when i return from Iraq, Marcus.
I'm going to give you as a source, the correct report in detail. I don't have the time to paraphrase or give you more than than you deserve.
http://www.srebrenica-report.com/defense.htm
Most of the info and links you provided were the fabrications and coverups in order to support our intervention into the Balkans. The idea is to inject truth. You have only provided the lies and the exaggerations that were well crafted.
"The voters to which you refer are not on the current list"
Yes, the voters 3,010 were on the current list. The OSCE was not forthcoming with the list, so you are lying as you don't know. You are not special enough to have seen the entire list since the OSCE would not provide it.
Oh, just in case you get tired of reading, and being embarrassed at being caught lying again, here is couple of paragraphs.....
http://www.srebrenica-report.com/politics.htm
"With 8,000 executed and thousands killed in the fighting there should have been huge grave sites and satellite evidence of both executions, burials, and any body removals. But the body searches in the Srebrenica vicinity were painfully disappointing, with only some two thousand bodies found in searches through 1999, including bodies killed in action and possibly Serb bodies, some pre-dating July 1995. The sparseness of these findings led to claims of body removal and reburial, but this was singularly unconvincing as the Bosnian Serbs were under intense military pressure after July 1995. This was the period when NATO was bombing Serb positions and Croat/Muslim armies were driving towards Banja Luka. The BSA was on the defensive and was extremely short of equipment and resources, including gasoline. To have mounted an operation of the magnitude required to exhume, transport and rebury thousands of corpses would have been far beyond the BSA’s capacity at that time. Furthermore, in carrying out such a program they could hardly hope to escape observation from OSCE personnel, local civilians, and satellite observations."
There were witnesses to killings at Srebrenica, or those who claimed to be witnesses. There were not many of these, and some had a political axe to grind or were otherwise not credible, [46] but several were believable and were probably telling of real and ugly events. But we are talking here of evidence of hundreds of executions, not 8,000 or anything close to it. The only direct participant witness claim that ran to a thousand was that of Drazen Erdemovic, an ethnic Croat associated with a mercenary group of killers whose members were paid 12 kilos of gold for their Bosnian service (according to Erdemovic himself) and ended up working in the Congo on behalf of French intelligence. His testimony was accepted despite its vagueness and inconsistencies, lack of corroboration, and his suffering from mental problems sufficient to disqualify him from trial--but not from testifying before the Tribunal, free of cross-examination. within two weeks of this disqualification from trial. This and other witness evidence suffered from serious abuse of the plea-bargaining process whereby witnesses could receive mitigating sentences if they cooperated sufficiently with the prosecution. [47]
It is also noteworthy how many relatively impartial observers in or near Srebrenica in July 1995 didn’t see any evidence of massacres, including the members of the Dutch forces present in the “safe area” and people like Henry Wieland, the chief UN investigator into alleged human rights abuses, who could find no eyewitnesses to atrocities after five days of interviewing among the 20,000 Srebrenica survivors gathered at the Tuzla airport refugee camp. [48]
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