Posted on 02/11/2006 3:20:33 AM PST by Lindykim
Enrico Ferri (1856-1926), a prominent socialist of his day, was an Italian criminologist who for many years was the editor of Avanti, a socialist daily. Writing in "Socialism and Religious Beliefs," he spoke of the all-important connection between Darwin's theory and socialism: "I add that not only is Darwinism not contrary to socialism, but that it forms one of its fundamental scientific premises. As Virchow justly remarked, socialism is nothing else than the logical and vital outcome partly of Darwinism and partly of Spencerian evolution." (www.marxists.org/...)
Enrico frankly discussed how and why Darwinian socialism serves as an alternate religion: "socialism is joined to religious evolution and tends to substitute itself for religion because it desires precisely that humanity should have its own 'terrestrial paradise' without having to wait for it in a 'something beyond' the socialist movement has numerous characteristics common to primitive Christianity, notably its ardent faith in the ideal." (ibid)
To wit: Darwinian socialism (Marx's dialectical scientific materialism) is a secularized and distorted mirror image of the Christian teaching of divine providence. In as the Biblical model teaches that man and history are moving towards the Kingdom of God, scientific materialism preaches that man and history are evolving toward a terrestrial paradise created by Promethean humanists. The notion that both history and man are evolving upward through successive stages is what British philosopher Mary Midgley termed the "Escalator Myth." When speaking of scientific materialism's creation account, Ferri candidly admitted: "modern positive science has substituted the conception of natural causality for the conception of miracles and divinity." (ibid) In other words, scientific materialists have reduced the personal Creator of the universe to the level of an impersonal animating force. It's this 'force' into which Promethean materialists tap, thus using it as the source of both their power and authority.
David Horowitz had this to say about scientific materialism's theology and creation account: "The victorious radicals had proclaimed a theology of Reason in which equality of condition was the natural and true order of creation. In their Genesis, the loss of equality was the ultimate source of mankind's' suffering and evil The ownership of private property became a secular version of original sin. Redemption was possible only through the Revolution that would abolish property and open the gates to the Socialist Eden---to paradise regained." ("The Politics of Bad Faith" www.discoverthenetwork.com)
In the Promethean project, everything from the cosmos to all living things, culture, customs, etc. are subject to evolution. The cosmos, or 'supreme being' is alive and in a constant state of transformative change. In speaking of the cosmos, Lenin used explicitly religious terminology: "We may regard the material and cosmic world as the supreme being, as the cause of all causes, as the creator of heaven and earth." (Vladimir Lenin as quoted in Francis Nigel Lee "Communism versus Creation," pg. 28)
Even the convoluted double-speak so peculiar to the Left is itself founded upon the notion of evolution, which no doubt explains why truth is a stranger to them. Dialectics (or more correctly: speaking in tongues) is what they call their snake-oil rhetoric. In Trotsky's words: "Vulgar thought operates with such concepts as capitalism, morals, freedom etc. Dialectic thinking analyses all things and phenomena in their continuous change. Dialectics teaches us to combine syllogisms in such a way as to bring our understanding closer to eternally changing reality." (The ABC of Dialectics, Leon Trotsky, http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky)
As double-speak indicates a need for secrecy, it comes as no surprise that dialectical materialism is likewise a hotbed of Gnosticism. Christian Gnostics were people who, when they read Scripture, claimed an ability to receive 'secret' knowledge from it, knowable only to them. Hence, they were practitioners of 'divination.' Modern Gnostics on our USSC have claimed to receive secret knowledge through 'auras, penumbras, and emanations" during their readings of our Constitution. Gnosticism, for obvious reasons, has a history of attracting megalomaniacs in search of secret knowledge to use as power over others. Frederick Engel's reveals that dialectical materialism is rooted in Gnosticism when he says: "An exact representation of the universe, of its evolution, of the development of mankind, and of the reflection of this evolution in the minds of men, can only be obtained by the methods of dialectics." (The Making of Utopian Socialism," Frederick Engel's, www.marxists.org)
In the theology of scientific materialism, Judgment Day is the Day of Revolution. This is the day of redemption when, in the name of 'Absolute Science! Amen!" the evil bourgeoisie (Conservatives, Christians, white males, all heterosexuals, George Bush, Rumsfeld, etc) will be damned. Likewise, all evil social institutions such as private property, traditional family, absolute moral laws, the Boy Scouts, Christianity, the concept of sin, and man's created condition as either male or female will be demolished, thus allowing equality of condition to prevail. This is what the Left means when it rhapsodizes about 'peace.'
In a brutal, but much deserved condemnation of Marx's dialectical materialism, David Horowitz wrote: "In every revolutionary battle in this century, the Left has been a vanguard without a viable future to offer, whose only purpose was to destroy whatever civilization actually existed. Consider: If no one had believed Marx's idea, there would have been no Bolshevik Revolution Hitler would not have come to power; there would have been no cold war." (The Politics of Bad Faith) Additionally, more than one-hundred million people would not have been slaughtered.
By the turn of the century, Marx's idea (the religion of scientific materialism) had crossed the Atlantic where it then began to metastasize in America. It was not long before it began to bear rotten fruit. By 1932, William Z. Foster, head of the Communist Party USA stated: "Class ideologies will give place to scientific materialist philosophy the American Soviet government will further the cultural revolution (by doing) the following: schools, colleges, universities will be coordinated under the National Department of Education studies will be revolutionized cleansed of religious, patriotic ideology students will be taught Marxian dialectical materialism; general ethics of the new socialist society. Science will become materialistic God will be banished from laboratories as well as from schools." ('Toward Soviet America," by William Z. Foster, 1932)
So now its America's turn to be sacrificed upon the altar of Promethean narcissism, for having learned nothing from his corpse-littered past, bloody-handed Prometheus continues to doggedly pursue his fantasy of a terrestrial paradisein the name of 'Absolute Science! Amen!"
Copyright Linda Kimball 2006 About the writer: Linda is a writer and author of numerous published articles and essays on culture, politics, and worldview.
Only a Marxbot or Darwinbot could get around it..
Both of their "faiths" can jump over logic.. thats what faith does.. Supplies answers for where there is no logical answer.. Any second reality needs that, a "bible".. its completely logical.. First reality needs a bible too in a world that requires faith..
Really, humans are suckers for a good story.. and Marx and Darwin supply a rich Soap Opera of drama.. just waiting for competent Drama Queens.. BOTH missing the greatest drama of all..
Pity too.. but the goats MUST be separated from the sheep.. its very important for Zero reality.. when bibles and human language are obsolete.. Where reality is not a thing to be grasped..
Marx developed his "labor theory of value" a key factor of his economics (an idea which Ricardo rejected), and this was before Darwin published Origins. So if Marx later referred to specialization of labor, and made a Darwinian reference, that's certainly interesting (and news to me), but it wasn't a new idea, and -- like Darwin's work -- it has nothing to do with communism.
It's nice that you've found a reference, but ... you haven't shown a conceptual linkage between evolution and communism. As I've said before, "to each according to his needs" is the opposite of natural selection.
Darwinian evolution is compatible with free enterprise and uncontrolled markets. If Darwin had preceded Adam Smith, we probably could show a connection between those two. (In fact, it's been suggested that Darwin was influenced by Adam Smith.) But there is no conceptual connection between Darwin and Marx.
Ping to 143.
Darwinian evolution, when properly understood by a Marxist, is much more conducive to capitalism.
Creationists agree. As I've pointed out earlier, the Institute for Creation Research has this article posted at their website:
Darwin's Influence on Ruthless Laissez Faire Capitalism.
The article's (rather leftish) abstract says this:
A review of the writings of several leading "robber baron" capitalists shows that many of them were influenced by the Darwinian view that the strong eventually will overcome the weak. Their faith in Darwinism helped them to justify this view as morally right and completely natural. As a result, they thought that their ruthless (and often unethical or even illegal) business practices were justified by science, and that Darwinistic concepts and conclusions were an inevitable part of the "unfolding of history," and for this reason were justified.
I's rather difficult to see how Darwin can be blamed for both capitalism and communism at the same time. The answer is simple: Darwin's work is incompatible with communism. Slam dunk.
And clearly, Marx was also. Marx cites him repeatedly in Das Kapital -- along with Ricardo and J. S. Mill. And Darwin himself. So, what do you make of that?
Another Linda Kimball thread? Yawn. The last one wasn't very entertaining I have better things to do.
And Darwin's work is also incompatible with capitalism -- to the extent that capitalism involves a system of voluntary cooperation, which goes entirely out of the schema of "natural" behavior. Which even Marx acknowledges: Marx thinks that cooperation subverts and distorts the natural interests of the human person, and that if there are any "battles to be won," they are to be won -- as Darwin suggests -- through "the war of all against all." That is, by means of conflict.
What a happy worldview!
Voluntary cooperation is natural. It happens all the time in the animal world, and it happens all the time with humans.
"as Darwin suggests -- through "the war of all against all."
You mean as Hobbes said. As I already posted, Hobbes is the originator of this phrase. It is the basis of his Leviathan, and was well known by political theorists in the 19th century. Also, when Marx used it, he was describing capitalism, not how things would be under communism. Lastly, the fact that there is a severe struggle within nature for survival is a true statement. The fact that Darwin quoted this (from De Condolle, who got it from Hobbes) only means he was describing biological reality. Do you disagree that there is a severe struggle for existence in nature?
capitalism involves a system of voluntary cooperation, which goes entirely out of the schema of "natural" behavior.
I don't remember Adam Smith ever saying anything like that. In fact, quite the contrary.
Yes, I do disagree. It seems to me that the gift of life is perfectly gratuitous. And is made as perfect as mortal things can be made, through a process of cooperation, not via struggle or conflict.
But then, I am not a materialist, physicalist, atheist, or reductionist monist in basic persuasion. So go figure. And try to have some fun while you're doing that.
1. Marx formed his main ideas before 1859, when Darwin published Origins. For example, Marx wrote:The systems of Marx and Darwin are truly in conflict. The world of evolving species is strikingly similar to the free enterprise system, and it's just as strikingly dis-similar to any form of communism. They're just different.Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844
Wage-Labour and Capital (1847)
Manifesto of the Communist Party [with Engels] (1847-48)
A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy (1859)
(Okay, that last one was 1859, but Origins was published in November of that year, so I doubt that Marx read Darwin, then wrote a book and got it published in the same year.)2. The concepts don't mesh: Marxism's "to each according to his needs" is the opposite of natural selection. You've never responded to this point, but I think it's an insurmountable barrier to your project.
3. The Institute for Creation Research blames Darwin for the "evils" of capitalism -- not communism. He can't be responsible for both, can he?
What in the world are you trying to accomplish? And why?
As to this "contrary" business: I'd be most glad to see your cites. Meanwhile, we weren't talking about what A. Smith said, but the way he was interpreted by Marx. Marx thought Smith was pretty good, BTW. But in Marx's view, he just wasn't quite smart enuf to draw the proper conclusions from his own statements. Marx comes along to "correct them," you see....
If you want to open this discussion to include an evaluation of the work of Adam Smith according to Karl Marx, I'd be completely open to that development.
But, dear PH, Marx was not a "communist." That word as far as I know was not introduced into the English lexicon until well after his death: Communism was a twentieth-century phenomenon, not a nineteenth-century phenomenon. But it claimed its roots in Marx.
I think just as Marx "appropriated" Darwin, so similarly, Lenin "appropriated" Marx. And thus Darwin into the bargain.
But you're right: Marx was devoted to the explication of the similarities between "the world of evolving species" and the "free enterprise system." May I remind you, that's the only question you tasked me to research in the first place. And I think I fulfilled my mandate from you. Unless you want to move the goalpost. Again. :^)
Meanwhile, we weren't talking about what A. Smith said, but the way he was interpreted by Marx.
Did I miss a reference to Marx in this statement?....And Darwin's work is also incompatible with capitalism -- to the extent that capitalism involves a system of voluntary cooperation, which goes entirely out of the schema of "natural" behavior.
BB, we are total disagreement. I can't imagine what you're up to, or what the goal is, but I don't want to quarrel with you. I'm dropping out of this one. You haven't "won" the debate. All you've done is wear me out, and I like you too much to persist.
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