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To: CarolinaGuitarman; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe; PatrickHenry
Do you disagree that there is a severe struggle for existence in nature?

Yes, I do disagree. It seems to me that the gift of life is perfectly gratuitous. And is made as perfect as mortal things can be made, through a process of cooperation, not via struggle or conflict.

But then, I am not a materialist, physicalist, atheist, or reductionist monist in basic persuasion. So go figure. And try to have some fun while you're doing that.

154 posted on 02/18/2006 4:16:12 PM PST by betty boop (Often the deepest cause of suffering is the very absence of God. -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: betty boop
" Yes, I do disagree."

Then your feelings are completely at odds with the evidence from biology. The struggle for existence was noted in biology, by creationists, before Darwin ever published. This isn't a *materialist* world view. It's a fact (to anybody who observes nature).

"And is made as perfect as mortal things can be made, through a process of cooperation, not via struggle or conflict."

But it doesn't work that way. Remember, we are talking about the natural world. Organisms have come up with innumerable ways to devour other organisms. There are wasps that lay their eggs into caterpillars and other insects. When the eggs hatch, the young eat the host alive. There are far far more organisms that are born than reach maturity. Predators tear apart their prey, often leaving their victims screaming in pain. The list is almost endless of the struggles and conflict in the natural world. I am stunned to hear someone, who is apparently intelligent, say there is no conflict in nature. Absolutely stunned.
157 posted on 02/18/2006 4:26:39 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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