Posted on 01/26/2006 9:11:12 AM PST by 1curiousmind
Let’s assume for the moment that the latest audiotape of Bin laden is not, as many have opined, simply an attempt to make himself relevant as he sees the methodical dismantling of his Al-Qaeda terrorist network. Instead, let’s assume for the moment that there is something to his bravado. That he isn’t just bluffing. But that the long-feared worst-case scenario has been achieved by his cohorts: that Al-Qaeda now has in its possession a dirty bomb. And more importantly, that this bomb is now in the targeted geographical location awaiting simply the designated hour for its detonation. Is that an unrealistic assumption? If only it were.
Notice that I didn’t say that the bomb was already in the United States. Because on Feb. 6, 2006 it won’t have to be in the US in order to kill 10’s of thousands of Americans while the whole world is watching. For on that date, Superbowl XL will take place in Detroit, MI at the new home of the Detroit Lions, Ford Field. What has yet to garnish any media attention is the fact that this will be the first time since 9/11 that such a high-profile event with such a concentration of Americans will take place so close to one of our borders.
Ford Field is located less than 2,300 yds from Canada. The Expo Center which will host the NFL Experience for families and children, is located directly on the riverfront, less than 700 yds from the Canadian shore. Windsor hotels and casinos will be jammed packed with thousands of American tourists from every state. The tunnel and bridge connecting the two countries will be at a crawl, cars and buses bumper to bumper along their entire stretch. The game itself will be broadcast live around the world. Even our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan will be tuning in.
Do we even need to pose the question whether Al-Qaeda would see this as a perfect target? There are indications that previous Superbowls may have been unsuccessfully targeted. During the 2003 Superbowl in Houston a Continental flight (CO 1519) from DC to Houston was cancelled at the last minute due to intercepted chatter mentioning the flight number. The plane was due to arrive in Houston mid-way through the third quarter. The 2002 Superbowl in New Orleans was completely swept for bombs, although this was not reported until later.
And then recently, on October 1, 2005, an Oklahoma University student blew himself up outside the UO stadium which was packed with 84,000 fans. The act was ruled a suicide unrelated to terrorism, although a secondary device was exploded by authorities and his apartment was found loaded with explosive chemicals known to be used by Al-Qaeda. The student, Joel Hinrichs , also had been active at the Norman, OK mosque also frequented by other known terrorists. And his roommate, from Pakistan, had purchased an airline ticket to Algeria. The roommate was interviewed and released. http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/article.php?storyid=16
Then on Dec. 23, 2005 three Algerian terrorists were arrested in Italy. The Turkish Press reported that plans to blow up US stadiums and other targets were found in their possession. http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=93048 Is there a possible connection between the bombing in Oklahoma and these arrests? It seems probable.
One theory is that Hinrichs actually was in the process of arming a bomb with the intention on killing hundreds along with himself, but that the bomb accidentally detonated. Another theory is that he unknowingly was used as a guinea pig by this terrorist cell as a trial run in preparation for a much larger-scale attack.
And then there is the continued search for Adnan El Shukrijumah, who is thought to be to the next terrorist attack on US soil, what Mohammed Atta was to 9/11. He is thought to be the one organizing the whole operation. The Washington Times reported the following in 2003:
A key al Qaeda terrorism suspect was in Canada looking for nuclear material for a "dirty bomb," The Washington Times has learned. Adnan El Shukrijumah is being sought by the FBI and CIA in connection with a plot to detonate a dirty bomb — a conventional explosive laced with radioactive material. According to an FBI informant, El Shukrijumah was spotted last year in Hamilton, Ontario, posing as a student at McMaster University, which has a 5-megawatt research reactor. U.S. officials believe El Shukrijumah, whose photograph was posted on the FBI's Web site in March, was in Hamilton trying to obtain radioactive material…….U.S. intelligence officials said earlier this year that al Qaeda planned to detonate a dirty bomb inside the United States, a plot directed by Mohammed. According to the officials, the al Qaeda members were sent to North America and assigned with making the bomb from materials acquired there, rather than trying to smuggle conventional explosives and radioactive material into the United States.
According to World Net Daily: “Adnan el Shukrijumah, a trained nuclear technician and accomplished pilot, has been singled out by bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri to serve as the field commander for the next terrorist attack on U.S. soil, a nuclear event that is known among al-Qaida planners as "the American Hiroshima”….At McMaster, where they may have enrolled under aliases, el-Shukrijumah and his associates reportedly wasted no time in gaining access to the nuclear reactor and stealing more than 180 pounds of nuclear waste for the creation of radiological bombs.” http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46158
El Shukrijumah is still on the loose, and his whereabouts are unknown. But he is thought to be either in Florida or, get this, Canada.
If he indeed is in Canada, and if he has succeeded in his mission to assemble a dirty bomb, then the only thing stopping him from detonating it is the arrival of the designated hour. He also is an accomplished pilot who successfully high-jacked a plane in Mexico in 2004. And guess where he got his training? That’s right, Norman, OK.
So now, back to Bin Laden’s message. The following are excerpts from the actual transcript. He repeatedly indicates the imminency of an attack. Especially troubling is the phrase, “days and nights will not go by.” I am not an authority on Arabic, but this phrase seems to indicate something is going to happen soon…very soon.
In fact, reports indicate that the defeat and devastating failure of the ill-omened plan of the four - Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz - and the announcement of this defeat and working it out, is only a matter of time, which is to some extent linked to the awareness of the American people of the magnitude of this tragedy.
Days and nights will not go by until we take revenge as we did on 11 September, God willing
And then he specifically references our boastful dependence on “modern weapons” which he contends will ultimately cause us to “lose the war.”
"Do not be deluded by your power and modern weapons. Although they win some battles, they lose the war."
Then twice he indicates that our defenses have been breached and that the operation is well underway.
"On the other hand, the mujahideen, praise be to God, have managed to breach all the security measures adopted by the unjust nations of the coalition time and again." "As for the delay in carrying out similar operations in America, this was not due to failure to breach your security measures. Operations are under preparation, and you will see them on your own ground once they are finished, God willing."
Then he concludes with this almost Messianic phrase as if it is directed at a specific chosen person.
"We will remain patient in fighting you, God willing, until the one whose time has come dies first. We will not escape the fight as long as we hold our weapons in our hands."
Is Bin Laden referring to Adnan El Shukrijumah? Is it possible that his “time has come” and that Bin Laden’s message is intended to not only take advance credit for the attack, but also as a message to El Shukrijumah to proceed with it?
It is very possible, even probable, that the real reason for no attack on US soil since 9/11 is that they have been patiently awaiting the right timing to pull off the perfect sequel to 9/11. No one knows what that “perfect sequel” would be for Al-Qaeda. But no one would argue against the probability that an event like the Superbowl would be near the top of the list. Six years ago Detroit was named as the host for the Superbowl. Since then Al-Qaeda terrorists have been in Ontario, stolen nuclear waste, and have disappeared. Their leader is an accomplished pilot and has already successfully high-jacked a small plane. His mission to attack the US with nuclear weapons, specifically dirty bombs, is a very real threat.
Unfortunately, for whatever reason the vast majority of Americans and Canadians have no idea who he is and the threat he poses. I believe that his name, picture and the video of him http://www.amw.com/fugitives/video_photos.cfm?id=27869 needs to be broadcast in both countries wherever possible. The White House and The Department of Homeland Security have often said that the greatest defense against terrorism is an alert and informed community. It is important that the word of this potential threat be spread with the hopes that El Shukrijumah could be apprehended before his mission is accomplished. Whether it be the Superbowl in Detroit or some other target.
Thanks Buddy
i thought you might be interested in this discussion
The thread at your link no longer exists.
The next target will be one we haven't thought of. A suicide bomber wearing the explosives would do relatively little damage (compared to 9/11) it would make Al Qaeda look weak and unable to mount anything significant. The Super Bowl would not make a good target because except by air, no one will get close enough with enough explosives to do any significant damage. There is always that chance we have simply made ourselves too difficult a target for Al Qaeda and they are focusing on softer targets.
Yeah, so when the Hawks win, the MSM will say the Steelers were having a bad day ... sheesh ... when the Steelers almost win, they'll say that the hung in to the bitter end ... fooie ... GO HAWKS!!!
Thribbit!!!!!!
"The Super Bowl would not make a good target because except by air, no one will get close enough with enough explosives to do any significant damage."
For discussion purposes on this thread - The stadium is not one of those type that sit out in the middle of a parking lot in the suburbs. It is near the center of downtown and it sits in the midst of (feet from) numerous theatres, stores, office buildings and parks which will be used for parties and an "open to the public" (no Super Bowl ticket required) celebration and winter events (ex. snow slide, dogsledding). The celebration has a name. Given the nature of this discussion I truly hesitate to post it, but lets just say you can find more details here:
http://www.motownwinterblast.com/
My previous post should also have noted that the stadium area will be closed to unauthorized vehicle traffic (many streets already are closed). Buses will bring people in from off-site parking areas.
"The thread at your link no longer exists."
Which thread? I think the one in the original article regarding the video of El Shukrijumah doesn't work. You can find it at http://www.amw.com/fugitives/
Let me know if there was another one that didn't work.
The local Detroit news stations last night all highlighted the security for the Superbowl. They even highlighted preparations at area hospitals in the event of a nuclear attack. They were very careful to downplay the threat (which I think is wise) and be upbeat about the security measures.
As many have already commented on this thread, they don't have to attack the stadium itself. They could attack anywhere but do it during the Superbowl and it would get immediate coverage while so many are tuned in. I don't think this would make them look weak. Do you really?
I'm more encouraged today than a few weeks ago that they will be able to keep a dirty bomb from getting into the area. I pity any plane that accidentally strays into the protected radius. They won't have much time to warn them.
I have been thinking about this and talking with my husband about it, and this is pretty much the conclusion I have reached. They can't hit the superbowl but they will hit somewhere and do it while the country is all in front of the TV so we don't miss it. And ruin the superbowl for most of us as well.
That's if we don't foil or catch them.
I went back and found the one I referred to in my first post, thanks. I assumed it opened directly to the thread.
They have been making threats ever since 9/11 about how they are going to attack us again. In his last message UBL said the reason they hadn't attacked wasn't because of our security measures, but because they needed time to prepare. The fact he has said it was not because of our security measures tells me it was very much because of our security measures. What made 9/11 easy for them was that we were just not paying any attention. Now we are paying a lot of attention and it is significantly harder to pull off a multi personnel, big event. If they simply send one guy in with an explosive vest and he kills 5 or 10 people I think he would look very weak. I mean "is that the best you can do?" In any case, it is not good to assume what terrorists will do and then put all your efforts against that assumption. We could all be surprised.
Did the Muslim population in the area start to grow rapidly before or after 2000?
I'm working at the Superbowl. My background check was done recently. I'm sure anyone targeting the event has performed this intel a long time ago, but I won't go into any details here.
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I think, if this Super Bowl has been chosen as a target, with the lead time to get the plan set up and to have terrorists hired who could pass a background test, an attack in Detroit would be hard to stop.
The attack would not have to be nuclear to cause huge damage. If they have 15 guys who are working in various positions at the SB, they could kill groups of 30-40 people all over the stadium at the same time. There will be some bigwigs who could be specifically targetted.
If the plan is to hit the superbowl, it could be done.
Not to mention those who live there in the motor city. Not sure which of these still live there, Aretha Franklin, Bob Seger, Mitch Ryder, Ted Nugent....
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