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A Traitor's Tirade: Rep. John Murtha Soils The Corps (Gunny Bob)
Men's News Daily ^ | 17 November 2005 | Bob Newman ("Gunny Bob")

Posted on 11/17/2005 6:14:19 PM PST by Stultis

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To: Gordongekko909
While I do agree that Mutha sucks, his statement doesn't seem to be a call for retreat directed at the military. It's more along the lines of "bring our troops home" stuff.

But that's what "bring the troops home" has ALWAYS meant and has ALWAYS amounted too, at least in my lifetime.

(Or course I mean those that adopt "bring the troops home" as political slogan in the midst of strife, not longing families who miss their sons and daughters, and not politicians who would bring the troops home in victory with their mission accomplished. But then there's not the slightest doubt to which side of this distinction Murtha falls. He's long since declared the war "unwinnable" with the current strategy: that of killing terrorists, training and equipping Iraqis to kill terrorists and establishing democracy.)

Actually "bring the troops home now" has always been, and certainly is now, MORE than just a call for retreat; it is a treasonous lie. It's never been just a call for unilateral surrender, but rather an attempt to extend aid to America's enemies.

WE KNOW that those who engineered the "bring the troops home now" campaign in 1945 and '46 sought to clear the way for Stalin to extend his empire over all of Europe. WE KNOW that those who said they "only" wanted to "bring the boys home" from Vietnam lied, because when the troops were all safely home they only redoubled their efforts in undermining, demonizing and demoralizing America's allies in Indochina, blocking enforcement of the Paris Accords, and repeatedly slashing aid to Vietnam and Cambodia.

These people never say what they mean but, given the repeated lessons of recent history, any failure to properly decode the real meaning of "bring the troops home now" -- and energetically respond to the intent -- is feckless and inexcusable.

21 posted on 11/17/2005 6:58:04 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: river rat

Murtha = EX-Marine.

The term is rare. But there it is.

Semper Fi


22 posted on 11/17/2005 6:59:00 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: Stultis
Murtha is no conservative anything and from the looks of it he forgot everything he learned in the Corps and from the Vietnam Experience.

In fact,, one could easily say that Murtha is a liberal.

23 posted on 11/17/2005 7:00:43 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: JoeSixPack1

Was Ritter Marine or Army???


24 posted on 11/17/2005 7:00:44 PM PST by cynicom
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To: Stultis

(Insert colorful, profanity-laced, cutting, yet witty DI monologue here)

25 posted on 11/17/2005 7:02:07 PM PST by LongElegantLegs (Yarn-ho.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Murtha = EX-Marine.

The term is rare. But there it is.

You beat me to it! I suspect the SOB was a REMF anyway.

26 posted on 11/17/2005 7:11:47 PM PST by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71)
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To: DoughtyOne

"...er, ah... Ms. Pelosi, Ma'am, can you hold the cue cards a little closer?"
27 posted on 11/17/2005 7:12:30 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis; river rat

Well I called Murtha's office today and read him the "riot act!"
I told him that the Marine Corps was not going to disgrace the memory of all those who paid the ultimate price and their families by "bugging out!" And that we would not leave until we had finished the job.

I also told Murtha's office that Murtha disgraced the Marine Corps today and that he should resign.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


28 posted on 11/17/2005 7:13:16 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: river rat

Thanks for the ping. I wish there was some way his retirement could be terminated. This Jerkoff Sh!tbird should spend about 24 months in an old (circa 1950's) USMC Brig.
That might straighten his dumbass out.


29 posted on 11/17/2005 7:17:40 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: kellynla
"... also told Murtha's office that Murtha disgraced the Marine Corps"

Actually, the past 230 years of Corps History - has safely enshrined the honor of our Corps for all eternity...

The honor of the Corps is impervious to the acts of man..
The honor of our Corps is forever safe in the hearts of men, both alive and our brothers gone before us...

Murtha disgraced himself.....not MY Corps..
At the core, it's STILL the Corps..

Semper Fi

30 posted on 11/17/2005 7:32:11 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: cynicom

Former Marine Officer...

Semper Fi


31 posted on 11/17/2005 7:34:49 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: BnBlFlag

Not going to happen.....
Democrats, America haters and surrender monkeys get a free pass in America..

Semper Fi


32 posted on 11/17/2005 7:41:11 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: jwalsh07

Try to name more than five Dem congressmen north of the Mason Dixon line that are more conservative than Murtha. The guy has been a hawkish type in general. I am not sure he laid out his case as to why the US should "cut its losses" in Iraq. Did he? The problem is, as time goes on, whether or not US troops are just the thin green line between a Shia and Sunni all out civil war. How much of it is about killing terrorists going after the US, and how much of it, is Sunnis going after Shias? At some point, if that is the case, the Shias will have to carry most of the load themselves. Bush's time is running out, and the Shias need to understand that. I don't have the heart however to abandon the Kurds ever. But that is just me.


34 posted on 11/17/2005 8:57:03 PM PST by Torie
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To: river rat
I think Murtha is being faithful because he believes that the final product of this war is not worth our Marines losing their lives for ....

The Final Product:
If the final product is another Oil Rich, Sharia Law, infidel(thats US) hating arab country, then he may be right. And from what can be seen .... the Constitution of Iraq now states NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM, the Iraqi Prime Minister states he wants to establish Sharia Law, and is laying wreathes at Iran's Ayatollah's grave, and even the Iraqi President says he will oppose any attack against Syria, by the USA, launched from Iraq.

and he may also notice how similar it seems to Vietnam.

Casualties higher ( 4 of 6 months with 80 Coalition KIA for the first time)
Sanctuaries for the enemy then and now = Cambodia/Laos then, Syria/Iran now.

Or again he may be another Veteran who sold his soul to the devil... via the democratic party.
35 posted on 11/17/2005 9:25:26 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: chesty_puller
Sounds like a Remington Raider to me.

I remember 3MAF.

VQ 1, Danang. 69-71
36 posted on 11/17/2005 9:34:26 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: kellynla

Good for you. I second the emotion.


37 posted on 11/17/2005 10:14:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Stultis

LOL


38 posted on 11/17/2005 10:15:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Stultis

Why is this in blogger?


39 posted on 11/17/2005 10:18:32 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Capt. Tom

"I took a break from FR and went upstairs to tell my wife about this article. She was watching a cooking show because she said Hannity and Colmes had on Gen Wesley Clark and Clasrk was agreeing with Murtha."

I was mad too and had to shut it off. Gen Wesley Clark makes me sick. He's nothing but a stinking politican and doesn't give a rip about this country. Why Fox News hired Clark as a spokesperson is beyond me.


40 posted on 11/17/2005 10:24:02 PM PST by Pepper777
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