David versus the Bolsheviks: The Battle of Lexington Green in the Year 2005

On April 27th of this year, the heavy hand of Bolshevism clamped down upon David Parker, a Lexington, MA. citizen and father of a six year old son. David was arrested on trumped up charges, handcuffed like a dangerous felon, and led off to jail. His heinous crime? Parker is guilty of being a morally principled man with the courage to request that he and his wife be given advance notification when issues of sexual unnaturalness and perversion (transgenderism, sodomy, and same-sex headed relationships) were going to be discussed in his son's classroom. Said Parker, "certain authorities insist that I agree that my children must be taught that gay relationships and transgender transformation are acceptable and normal. When I firmly, albeit patiently, objected and then finally insisted to be notified when and how my own children were to be exposed to these issues, I was arrested and hauled off to jail." Freedom of conscience has been made a hate-crime in Massachusetts.

Among the communist goals listed on the Congressional Record—Current Communist Goals (pp. A34-A35, Jan. 10, 1963) are these: 17) Get control of the schools…use as transmission belts for socialism, 25) Break down cultural standards of morality, 26) Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as 'normal, natural, healthy."

These goals are affirmed by the Communist Textbook of Psychopolitics. It is written, "Degradation and conquest are companions. In order to be conquered a nation must be degraded. By attacking the character and morals…by bringing about contamination of youth, a general degraded feeling (will facilitate) command of the population."

Lexington Bolshevik commissars are actualizing invidiously evil stratagems devised to effectuate moral decay and collapse within America. In their capacity as school board officials and as teachers, they are spreading propaganda designed to "destroy the home." By "creating continuous juvenile delinquency, forcing upon the state all manner of practices to divorce the child from it (the family) will in the end create the chaos necessary to Communism. Creating a greed for drugs, sexual misbehavior and uncontrolled freedom (will) bring about our alignment." (Communist Textbook of Psychopolitics)

David Parker, a morally principled man, devoted father, and courageous dissident of their evil devices has been stamped: "Enemy of the State."

In a speech before his supporters, Parker stated, "I stand before you banned from attending my son's first day of school…banned from voting, teacher-parent conferences and school committee meetings. The Lexington school administration demands that I ask permission for these rights. What free U.S. citizen must ask for permission to vote, or to be in the presence of his son? The school administration…is attempting to put themselves in the role as parents."

Facing off against Parker and his supporters was a malevolence-fueled rabble gathered together to spit and spew venom. Among the venomous hissing snakes were commissars Helen Cohen, Chairman of the Lexington School Committee; Tom Griffiths, a School Committee member; and Jeanne Kreiger, member of the Lexington Board of Selectmen. Also in attendance were three Marxist 'liberation theology' preachers: Rabbi Howard Jaffe of Temple Isaiah, Rev. Judy Brain, Pastor of Pilgrim Congregational Church, and Rev. Bill Clark, Senior Pastor of the First Unitarian Parish in Lexington. (Article8.org)

Of the venom-spewing rabble, one witness commented, "You could see the look in their eyes, even the kids. It was eerie. They really can't stand us, as if we're polluting their town just by being here." (Article8.org)

In speaking of commissars, Balint Vazsonyi (America's Thirty Years War) observed that, "commissars of 'social justice' demand conformity in our most private thoughts, our innermost sentiments. Conformity—not only to their failed theories, but to their every whim."

"In the predawn light of April 19 (1775), the beating drums and peeling bells summoned between thirty and fifty militiamen to the town green of Lexington. As they lined up in battle formation the distant sound of marching feet and shouted orders alerted them of the Redcoats approach. The British troops approached…rapidly in platoons…a general officer on horseback at their head. The officer came up to within about two rods of the centre of the company…swung his sword, and said, "Lay down your arms, you damned rebels, or you are all dead men. Fire!" Thus began the "confrontation that would launch a nation." (EyeWitnessToHistory.com)

David Parker has been ordered to 'lay down his arms' and surrender. But he, a valiant modern-day Paul Revere, not only cried out the alarm, but courageously fired the first volley, so to speak, when he bravely vowed:

"Let the call go forth from Lexington, across Massachusetts, and throughout the United States to the world - Parents stand your ground!

But if they mean to have a war over parental rights, Battling for the hearts and minds of our children,

And with regard to the Lexington School administration banning a father's will and presence from all schools,

No powers or principalities on this earth or beyond shall separate the Father from his Son!"

David Parker has sounded the battle cry. Now it's time for all good men to unite and join the fight, for as Edmund Burke cautioned, "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."

About the writer: Linda Kimball is a writer and author of numerous published articles and essays on politics, culture, and worldview.

Funny how you secularists can't tell the difference between human lapses that all Christians commit and open defiance of God's laws which is what the sodomite lifestyle is

Funny how you religious extremists read only what you will into God's plan. The self-righteous are an interesting bunch. There is far less room for love in their hearts for the hatred that grows incessantly within them.

Christians slip but accept that God is the boss and repent while pro-deviants completely reject all divine and Biblical authority.

There are millions of Christians that would respectfully disagree with you. You can make believe that homosexuality is the sin of sins, but most disagree with that assessment. You "forgive" all other sins, but not this one. And you even countenance the punishment of the innocents through the sin of guilt by association.

For a "Christian" church to proclaim that sodomy is politically correct and even to be elevated to positions of leadership is to proclaim that the Bible is to be ignored and God's definition of sin subordinated to "niceness" and "feelings".

Perhaps they realize that the Bible is filled with parables and comparisons and other non-literal stories. Perhaps they believe that the Bible is first of all a book of love, not hate.

The Europe that has turned its back on God and chosen sodomy is withering, dying.

Yes, a destroyed Europe from the 40's is certainly far worse off today! LOL.

Mac: I guess it is clearly her fault. A child at any age should have sense enough to leaving loving parents if they are in a state of sin (as all are). I sense, Sam, that there is only one sin that bothers you

There is some very fuzzy reasoning going on in the above assumptions.
First, Mac assumes that children are incapable of observing the behaviors of their parents, and if those behaviors are desructive, then reaching a conclusion such as this: "I love my parents IN SPITE OF their bad behaviors but I choose NOT TO BECOME LIKE THEM."

Second, Mac assumes (at least through implication) that free will does not exist. This assumption is a cop-out used by people who refuse to accept personal responsibility for the destructive (self-centered & envious) choices they make (the pathological liar of which I previously wrote).

Third, Mac doesn't recognize that everyone has or will be victimized by someone else in this world,but in order to become a victim, you must CHOOSE to be one.

Mac comes across as a whiner because he obviously chose to be a victim. The victim mentality ALWAYS speaks with the voice of vengeance. It says: When I get control, I'm going to make them pay."

Making "straight" people "pay" is EXACTLY what the same-sex movement is all about. And they are seeking vengeance through corrupting and taking control of (turning children against their own parents) the children of straight people.

This sadistic agenda is what Mac is defending.

God's word is very clear. Sodomy is an abomination in his eyes that he condemns alongside incest, bestiality, and child human sacrifice. That is what Leviticus clearly says as plain as day (so why should Christ the Son have anything different to say on the subject ?). God finds it disgusting and repulsive and commands that those engaged in it be "cut off from among you". There are no differences of interpretation, no shades of grey. Either you will obey God's command or you will not. Either you accept the sovereignty of God or you will not. God's love does not give anyone permission to ignore God's authority. You demand the right to put your personal definition of "niceness" ahead of God's holy laws. You demand the right to bless what God has cursed because you don't think that God's laws are "nice".

God's holy church is not a democracy. God's laws are not subject to majority vote so the opinions of apostates are of no importance. Christians do not have the right to rewrite God's laws at their whim. God says 'abomination'. That is pretty clear cut. And God will forgive any sin if we repent. What He will not forgive is rebellious defiance and the sodomite movement is rebellious defiance that competely rejects the authority of God. To proclaim that 'abomination' is good is Satanic defiance of divine authority.

"Perhaps they realize that the Bible is filled with parables and comparisons and other non-literal stories. Perhaps they believe that the Bible is first of all a book of love, not hate."

If you knew anything about the Bible, it is full of God's judgements against sin and sinners. Those who chose to defy God's authority and His word are punished. And as I clearly see, to embrace sodomy you must first reject the Bible as the word of God which makes you an apostate, not in the least a Christian. You must arrogate the right to ignore divine commandments that you don't like because the Bible only contains "non-literal stories". At the core of the sodomite movement is a Satanic rebellion against the sovereignty of God and the authority of His word.

It is apparent that to you Christians who hold fast to the Word of God are "religious extremists" because we will not bow down before the idol of cultural elite political correctness. We will not drop a pinch of incense on the altar of "tolerance".

Lindy, you are too funny!

First, Mac assumes that children are incapable of observing the behaviors of their parents, and if those behaviors are desructive, then reaching a conclusion such as this: "I love my parents IN SPITE OF their bad behaviors but I choose NOT TO BECOME LIKE THEM."

And this little girl didn't say that? Why do you assume she will become a lesbian? She is far less a victim of her parents' sins than of the school and it's spiteful and vengeful administration.

Second, Mac assumes (at least through implication) that free will does not exist. This assumption is a cop-out used by people who refuse to accept personal responsibility for the destructive (self-centered & envious) choices they make (the pathological liar of which I previously wrote).

Never have I either stated nor implied such. I believe strongly in taking personal responsibility, but what I reject out of hand is the use of children such as the school and Mr. Parker did simply to make some extremist religious point.

Third, Mac doesn't recognize that everyone has or will be victimized by someone else in this world,but in order to become a victim, you must CHOOSE to be one.

I'm glad you recognize that fact. This thread started when you posted a completely slanted article that made Parker and his children victims. If his children were not victims of the infamous "book", then there was no reason Parker couldn't have stopped his lunatic crusade. If his children were victims of the school then either they wanted to be such, or your thesis is incorrect.

Nonetheless, when people filled with hate such as the principal of that school and Mr. Parker, purposefully victimize those who cannot fight back (children), I wonder what kind of a God would smile on them. Again, some here assume that children as collateral damage are simply a part of their and God's grand scheme.

Mac comes across as a whiner because he obviously chose to be a victim. The victim mentality ALWAYS speaks with the voice of vengeance. It says: When I get control, I'm going to make them pay."

Simply putting words on a screen doesn't make up for inability to debate intellectually or logically. None of that made any sense, nor did it even relate to the topic at hand. Most, like you folks, when you encounter intelligence, simply resort to name-calling, ridiculous ad-hominem attacks against the poster, and self righteous indignation, claiming God is with you all the way.

Making "straight" people "pay" is EXACTLY what the same-sex movement is all about. And they are seeking vengeance through corrupting and taking control of (turning children against their own parents) the children of straight people.

Well, it is you people who are turning the little girl against her parents, not me. It was Parker that would rather make a general statement about the sins of homosexuality, resulting in the likely constant humiliation of his own children and the inability for him to ever interact with them in school events. Seems like the only people to "pay" in these two cases was the children.

This sadistic agenda is what Mac is defending.

Well if sadism, hate, vengeance, cursing, self righteousness, pride, are examples of God's agenda, then you guys are headed to the front of the heavenly line.

Christians do not have the right to rewrite God's laws at their whim.

Then we'd best not get into how many versions of the Bible exist and have been re-written over the centuries....to meet "new" demands.

What He will not forgive is rebellious defiance and the sodomite movement is rebellious defiance that competely rejects the authority of God.

As I said earlier, millions of Christians disagree with you, but then, somehow a few of you got the correct version from God, himself.

If you knew anything about the Bible, it is full of God's judgements against sin and sinners.

As with most Christians, I think that a perfect God that has existed forever is less interested in personal lifestyles than in what's in a person's heart. He has no reason to prove he is more powerful than us. We know that. Vengeance may be the Lord's, but it is nevertheless one of the deadly sins, and since God cannot sin, well.......

It is apparent that to you Christians who hold fast to the Word of God are "religious extremists" because we will not bow down before the idol of cultural elite political correctness. We will not drop a pinch of incense on the altar of "tolerance".

It is apparent to most Christians that God wants to promote love not hate. Most believe that His plan was not to have nature trick people into sinning. Most believe that good and evil are pretty straight forward, and can clearly be seen in Parker and the school administration. Since I presume none of you has spoken directly with God, I'm not sure how you seem to be so self righteous in your condemnation of others.

Then we'd best not get into how many versions of the Bible exist and have been re-written over the centuries....to meet "new" demands.

The Bible has been translated many times but never re-written. But what do you care ? You have made the decision that you will ignore God's holy word and place your own opinions and sentiments above them in a sodomite spirit of Satanic rebellion. As I have so clearly stated, you cannot serve God and sodomy at the same time. You cannot live in obedience to God's holy word and proclaim abomination good at the same time. It has to be one or the other and you have chosen Satan.

And by the way, we millions and millions of true faithful Christians who see sodomy as the cause of Satan (and your last post was every Satanic lie in the Garden) did get the correct version from God himself. It's called the Bible. And "millions" of "Christians" don't disagree with God's holy word because.

1. There aren't "millions" of liberal Episcopalians, UCC, and UU types out there. They are a cursed and dwindling band of apostates. Wherever the sodomites became a critical mass they ran the church straight into the ground because Christians left in disgust. The Episcopalians in America have shrunk dramatically as apostates like Spong and Griswold took over.

2. If they have chosen rebellion against God they are not Christians.

It is clear that your problem with Parker is because he is a Christian living the word according to Bible principles and will not submit to your agenda of deviance. You don't mind how he did what he did. You never did. You mind that he did it at all. You mind that he spoke out at all against your pro-sodomite anti-Christian agenda.

The Bible has been translated many times but never re-written.

Sam, at least consider the history of the Bible, and how various Popes, Kings, and others have impacted its "translations". Have you any real idea of how it evolved during the early Christian groups that all had their say after the death of Christ? Anly one real Catholic group survived the several that existed. Some of their writings survived into the current doctrine, but much didn't. How do you know which was correct. Survival of the fittest? But you don't believe in that theory. We could spend volumes on the history of the "translations" of the Bible, but if you keep yourself blind to it, perhaps you can accept all of the words that it "currently" says.

You have made the decision that you will ignore God's holy word and place your own opinions and sentiments above them in a sodomite spirit of Satanic rebellion.

Hmmm. Where did you get that from? I only ignore Sam's holy word, not God's.

You cannot live in obedience to God's holy word and proclaim abomination good at the same time.

Perhaps you could direct me to the post where I proclaimed abomination good?

It has to be one or the other and you have chosen Satan.

And you have simply chosen to judge rather than discuss, to preach rather than reason.

And by the way, we millions and millions of true faithful Christians who see sodomy as the cause of Satan

So Sodomy came along before Satan? I thought Satan was cast out of heaven. Are you real sure of that? Could you explain that?

and your last post was every Satanic lie in the Garden

For example...?

There aren't "millions" of liberal Episcopalians, UCC, and UU types out there. They are a cursed and dwindling band of apostates.

You might just be interested in a few poll results. These are from a combination of Pew, Time, and Gallup organizations:

49% of Americans favor some type of union (though support for gay marriage has dropped some over the last few years)

34% favor gay marriage (Gallup), 38% favor gay marriage (Pew);

54% accept homosexual behavior

60% believe all such behavior should be legalized;

88% believe in equal opportunities for gays and lesbians;

78% believe gays and lesbians should be permitted to teach;

75% disapprove of book removals;

Of those who believe in gay marriage:

13% are Evangelicals (such as you folks here),

37% are mainline Protestants,

35% are Catholics.

So even 13% of those who share your values, Sam, seem to approve of gay marriage! Wonder how many of them approve of gay rights, etc? So I guess your numbers are a bit out of date, as is your reading of the Bible.

If they have chosen rebellion against God they are not Christians.

Well, you call it rebellion, while millions of your brethren call it interpretation.

It is clear that your problem with Parker is because he is a Christian living the word according to Bible principles and will not submit to your agenda of deviance.

No, the only deviance perpetrated was by Parker himself, who chose jail and publicity (a la Cindy Sheehan) over the well being of his children.

You don't mind how he did what he did. You never did. You mind that he did it at all. You mind that he spoke out at all against your pro-sodomite anti-Christian agenda.

No, I mind what he did. He was given the opportunity to exclude his children from any planned discussion of homosexuality in school. He was given exactly what he requested, and when the school gave in to his demands, he simply raised the demands until the school could no longer agree. Yes, he used his children as pawns and bait in this stupid game of his. Now both he and his children have paid the price. And I believe that God must have shaken His head at that one.

Wrong, Mac. That little girl is being used by two selfcentered, adolesent females as a sop to their overweening vanity and to their emotional neediness. That poor child is nothing but a 'trophy' whose purpose is to validate that the unnatural and abnormal are actually "socially enlightened" behaviors.

Wow! You are a lot smarter than I to be able to look into the hearts and minds of those you disagree with and see such evil. I thought that after 22 years of "marriage", that the two women actually loved each other, and more than that loved their children and simply wanted a good education for them. Thank you for clarifying that for me.

But your conceit & your selfish desires blind you to reality.

Remember, I too can flame with the best of them. Give the ad-hominem attack a rest and simply deal with what you actually know, not what you would like to know. You know nothing about me or what's in my heart or my soul. Nor do you have any sort of inside knowledge of how God feels about me. So try and keep on the topic of either the child who was expelled from a "Christian" school, or on the actions of Parker. Anything else is not on topic.

They have made you as blind as Michael Jackson's has. When he looks in the mirror, his "conceit" shows him an illusion of beauty. When we gaze upon his mutilated face, it's with a sense of horror. You praise the unnatural as 'socially enlightened" and we gaze with horror upon the killing fields of STDs.

You simply have no ability to debate, so all you can do is rant with your message of hate. BTW, 63% of women with AIDS came from heterosexual contact, not homosexual contact. So you may have to slightly adjust the description of your STD killing fields.

Since the "mainline Protestant" denominations that chose to approve of sodomy are dying because they have turned their back on God's authority and God's word, your polls are meaningless. The only real growth in Christianity is from those who have chosen to remain true to God's word because they and only they have any committment to Christianity. Christ predicted that many would hear the Word and fall away. But those who believed and stayed would bear fruit a hundred fold. And as we see it is the devout who have babies. Those who live for their egos and appetites (like Europeans) don't make the commitmemt to have children. Sodomy at least has the decency to clean up after itself.

And the sodomite cause is indeed the cause of Satan. You cannot approve of sodomy as you do unless you have chosen as you do to reject God's holy word and God's authority.

Satan told three lies.

1. God's laws are unjust and tyrannical (Is it true that God has forbidden you to eat all the fruit in the garden ?)
2. People can decide for themselves good and evil. People can put their feeling and opinions ahead of God's laws (You will become like God knowing good from evil.).
3. God's laws can be ignored without adverse consequences (In the day you eat the fruit you shall not die.).

These are evidently what you believe. The sodomite cause which is an in your face defiance of God, contains all three of Satan's lies. You have decided for yourself that you will ignore God's laws and commandments.

And as the unchecked decline of liberal "Christianity" in favor of Bible-based true Christianity shows, once you have abandoned the anchor of God's truth you are only left with your feelings and your genitals. You might as well call your "god" Baal-Peor or Asherah because there is no difference. The threat of apostasy is an old one in God's church and one which God's holy church rejects and is stronger for it. The Catholic Church that emerges from the Pope's decision to run out the degenerates will be stronger for it. Moral clarity always wins in the end.

That is why you ignore the fact that true Christian opposition to sodomite marriage is intense while false "Christian" support is soft. True Christians demand moral clarity and an unwavering committment to God's truth, not wishy washy slop about what "I believe" or political correctness or soggy "niceness". I doubt whether any of the so-called liberal "Christians" who support sodomite marriage have seen the inside of a church this year. All those who oppose it attend church regularly. A God worth getting out of bed on Sundays for demands committment and deals in absolutes. People with no real convictions will be soft in what they support. And that is why we will win.

And the explosion of AIDS among heterosexuals never happenned. The current spread among black women is entirely due to sexual intercourse with black men who were sodomized in prison. A wise God put biochemical defenses in parts of the body where things were meant to go in to. So inevitably a depraved, unnatural lifestyle of "bug chasing" and "barebacking" and crystal meth and toilet sex spawns unnatural diseases. This is God's judgement upon sin and rebellion.

Since the "mainline Protestant" denominations that chose to approve of sodomy are dying because they have turned their back on God's authority and God's word, your polls are meaningless.

But how could you have let those 13% get out of the corral? Heck, if you can't control even your own evangelical group, how can you get to the rest of America? You didn't comment on the rest of the polls, but I assume they are all worthless, huh?

Sodomy at least has the decency to clean up after itself.

Of all the things we have talked about on this thread, this is the first positive thing anyone, including me has had to say about homosexuality! And it came from you, Sam.

And the sodomite cause is indeed the cause of Satan. You cannot approve of sodomy as you do unless you have chosen as you do to reject God's holy word and God's authority.

So sodomy (I assume you include heterosexual sodomy also) came before Satan? I am confused, as I thought God cast him out of heaven before creating man. Could you point me in the right direction?

1. God's laws are unjust and tyrannical (Is it true that God has forbidden you to eat all the fruit in the garden ?)

So the forbidden fruit is really just an analogy? It represents many things? What other analogies and stories do we find in Genesis?

You will become like God knowing good from evil.)

Well, I wondered why your Godlike charm.

The sodomite cause which is an in your face defiance of God, contains all three of Satan's lies. You have decided for yourself that you will ignore God's laws and commandments.

Well, as God's self proclaimed chief justice, you have confused me with someone else. I have told you what my concerns were in both cases, and neither involves any positive statements by me about gay and lesbian lifestyles. I did tell you how the majority of Americans view it, but you reject all that you don't personally agree with. Please tell me which of god's commandments I rejected and point out the post where I made such a rejection. You won't. You will simply ignore this as you have everything else. Tell me. In whatever "Church" you attend, if any, do they give lessons in how to do that?

The threat of apostasy is an old one in God's church and one which God's holy church rejects and is stronger for it.

Yes, there is quite a history of God's Holy church taking care of the apostates through the centuries. The early days of the church involved extermination of the apostate churches. The "Holy" inquisitions effectively took care of anyone stepping out of line. The Salem witch trials and other witch hunts were religious in nature, stressing fear as their tools.

The Catholic Church that emerges from the Pope's decision to run out the degenerates will be stronger for it. Moral clarity always wins in the end.

Yes, the Catholic Church and moral clarity...if you overlook the abuses of children, the Crusades, the inquisitions, the Nazis, etc. etc. I'm sure God has looked favorably on all that while condemning the two parents of that girl......

That is why you ignore the fact that true Christian opposition to sodomite marriage is intense while false "Christian" support is soft.

Darn, there's that pesky old 13% again...

True Christians demand moral clarity and an unwavering committment to God's truth, not wishy washy slop about what "I believe" or political correctness or soggy "niceness"

That thought has more in common with radical Islam than with a free thinking America.

People with no real convictions will be soft in what they support. And that is why we will win.

No, those who want to take us back to the 14th century will not prevail. It may take America a while to wake up, but most conservatives and those on the other side of the aisle will out such thought. You may be able to capture the hearts and minds of the ignorant, but free thinking people will thwart you in the end. Believe me, I know what you would do to this country if you were in power. All tyrannies depend on totalitarian mind control. It works with Marxists and Wahhabis and radical religions. They must control the mind, and usually they do it through fear. Never allow them to think, even for a second. For they will certainly begin to question how an all powerful God could rule through fear. Your totalitarian walls will come tumbling down.

And the explosion of AIDS among heterosexuals never happenned. The current spread among black women is entirely due to sexual intercourse with black men who were sodomized in prison.

I'm not sure what Bible you got that one out of, but it is simply false. It may be what your church told you, but not so. In fact in 2004, 47% of all aids cases were women worldwide, and 57% in Africa. Doubt that there are that many prisoners with aids to contact. Don't simply make up crap to support an unsupportable position. God wouldn't like it.

A wise God put biochemical defenses in parts of the body where things were meant to go in to. So inevitably a depraved, unnatural lifestyle of "bug chasing" and "barebacking" and crystal meth and toilet sex spawns unnatural diseases. This is God's judgement upon sin and rebellion.

Well, you seem to be right up to date on all of the unnatural sex lingo, so I will defer to your studies in that area. But you have never mentioned heterosexual activities in that arena. Is that also a no no?

Unfortunately I have been too busy to get on FR much lately and will be very busy for the forseeable future.

Couple thoughts:

1. If someone is an atheist, it is irrational for him/her to use God, His possible motives or plans, in any argument.

2. MAC's figures about women contracting AIDS may be correct, I don't have time to check them. In the US, most women who get AIDS have sex with men who also have sex with men (i.e. with bisexual men), and/or inject drugs. In Africa, anal sex is apparently extremely common. Anal sex, no matter what the sex of the participants, is an extremely unhealthy practice. It facilitiates the spread of not only AIDS but many other diseases and parasites, disrupts the normal functioning of the lower intestine and rectum, and because the lining of the rectum tears easily, unlike the interior of the vagina which is made for such activity, the small tears admit not only feces and microbes into the bloodstream, but aslo sperm. When sperm get into the bloodstream, especially repeatedly, this disturbs the immune system, which considers the sperm a foreign protein. That's another reason homosexuals OR heterosexuals who practice anal sodomy are more likely to have many diseases - their immune systems get impaired by anal sex even apart from HIV.

3. So-called mainstream Protestant sects who have changed their teachings to accomodate socially liberal ideas and practices are losing members hand over fist. There are many articles about this phenomenon on FR. I've even heard about it on NPR, and even there it was attributed to the social liberalism of the churches. OTOH, denominations which adhere closely to Biblical teachings are actually gaining in membership.

4. Trying to claim that Nazis were Christians is beyond silly - it reveals either historical ignorance or duplicity. If anyone wants to know about the roots of the Nazi philosophy, "The Pink Swastika" is an excellent and fascinating read about how it came into being - a nasty mix of Teutonic mythology and racist nationalism, Spartan/Greco homo-eroticism, Vandervogel (I may have gotten the German wrong) -a homo-erotic youth group with pseudo mystical ideals of a band of homosexual brothers, black Tantric faux mysticism a la Theosophy (whose founder, Mme Blavatsky, was likely a lesbian, and her chief leutenant was a pederast), some very strange gnostic monks whose leader, a homosexual, was kicked out of the Catholic church - and more! Not Christian at all.

When the Nazis gained power, they basically kicked out the church leaders and installed their own pro-Nazi figure heads. Nazis Christian? Ridiculous.

5. And child abuse (or actually youth abuse, primarily) in the Catholic Church? Ever read "Goodbye Good Men"? Ever heard of the Lavender Mafia? Ever heard of how many homosexuals became priests, and normal men either couldn't stand the atmosphere in the seminaries or were driven away or not even accepted? It's not the fault of the Catholic teachings that there was pederasty going on, it's the fault of homosexuals who infiltrated the Catholic Church. Looks like Pope Benedict is going to be kicking some butt and taking names now.

Homosexuality is unnatural, unhealthy, and immoral. This is not a Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist or any other religion or sect's particular tenet. It is natural law, which no one can escape. Just as no one can flout the law of gravity without reaction, no one individually can flaut the natural laws without personal reaction; and if a society as a whole flauts natural law, there will be a noticeable decay of human civilization.

We see it now - with the those attempting to force "gay" marriage, homosexual adoption and foster parenting and the evidence that this is harmful to children, promiscuity rates, child molestation, and now the cutting edge of "intergenerational sex" (primarily homosexual pederasty).

MAC and other promoters and defenders of sexual immorality can and will continue to do their job, and it is our job to point out the flaws, inconsistencies, and lies in their arguments.

The 20th century is full of the carcasses of people who confidently predicted the imminent demise of Bible based Christianity. At the beginning of the last century the intelligentsia was full of people who were certain that "reason" would prevail over "superstition".

Guess what ? It is the "reason" types who are indeed superstitious. Every time they try to replace God's laws with their own they fall flat on their faces. This country is in the middle of a Christian revival as a reaction to the depraved, degenerate "morals" of the 70's of which the sodomite movement is the last gasp. What better indication of it is the fact that the greatest political force in America is the Christian Right ?

Look at demographics. For the past half century people have been voting with their feet and their moving vans that they would prefer to live among Bible believing Christians than among deviants and secularists. Blacks seeking to raise their children away from the moral relativism and depravity that characterize cultures that tolerate open deviance are returning to the South. It will not be long before once again most Blacks live in the Bible Belt. The quality of life among Christians, among people with moral rules, is just plain better. People who want to build families and communities as opposed to people who want to party til they pass out have been steadily moving to Christian America. So it seems to me that our victory is inevitable. You can keep the cities that are losing population where deviants parade naked.

As I pointed out earlier, the rejection of excess is the most consistent cultural trend in post 1980 America. We are on the winning side. That is why nearly four times as many Americans are strongly opposed to deviant marriage as are strongly supportive. THAT'S the poll number you left out.

Pete Wilson and Arlen Specter tried running for the GOP nomination on a pro-abortion position. They didn't get very far. In fact they gave up before the first primary. McCain thought he could Sistah Souljah the Christian Right. He didn't get very far either. Kinda shows what's in store for any 'conservative' who thinks he can run on a platform of bug-chaser marriage.

In fact sodomite marriage as an issue was directly reponsible for the defection of black voters in Ohio that gave George Bush the victory last year (had it not been for Iraq he would have gotten 20% plus of the black vote). Blacks are overwhelmingly fundamentalist Christians who resent those who have hijacked the symbolism of the civil rights movement and taken it from the church into the toilet. Blacks have no affinity with Northern liberal cultural left secularists which is why they have always gravitated towards white Southern Democratic candidates. Clinton was one hell of a sinner but he was a Southerner who knew that you never, ever, ever treat Biblical Christianity with the kind of open contempt that you and your ilk do. He did not walk the walk but he talked the talk. He signed the DOMA to cover his right flank and please his black base. So it would obviously be political idiocy of the highest order for the GOP to throw away a good wedge issue that will deny the Democratic Party the 90% of the black vote that it needs to be competitive in presidential elections.

Satan's promises just plain don't work. They are lies and they fail and every attempt to build a life or a nation on them ends in miserable failure.

And by the way, go to a dictionary and look up the word "cause". "Cause" can mean program or agenda as well as origin. Or take a good English as a Second Language course at your local community college.

MAC and other promoters and defenders of sexual immorality can and will continue to do their job, and it is our job to point out the flaws, inconsistencies, and lies in their arguments.

You might begin by pointing out the lie you just told. You can continue to try and turn the whole argument around by attacking your opponent, but all it does it demonstrate the weakness of your position. I have neither promoted nor defended homosexuality. I have, however, showed up a so-called Christian school for the hate factory it really is, and showed up an idiot father who used his own children to promote his hatred of homosexuals. As for the Nazis, you might check out some of the books on the Catholic Church and Nazism from the early 30's throught their escape into Latin America. You will also find many defensive articles and books also. Where there's smoke....

As for aids, a disgusting disease of choice, no amount of made up conclusions you and others come up with here will lead to God's wrath any more than 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina.

As for the Catholic Church, its history speaks for itself. No one can ever justify that history. If you and others here are trying to use the Catholic Church to demonstrate virtue, it won't pass the laugh test.

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